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411) Arminius, 27.03.2014, 20:59, 23:41, 21:43 (833-835)
@ Contra-NietzscheFirst of all we guys - as you call us (**) - have to say that English is not our first language. You know what I mean?The critics are not aimed as Nietzsche in general and also not as Cezar in general but as his entirely private / personal problem with Germans (in general, which means: including North-Americans, Englishmen etc.), his ignorance of every scientific proof, especially his history-lies, and his pathological obsession believing totally in in the German philosophers Vollgraff, Nietzsche and other similiar idols. This pathological belief is very dangerous not only for us, but for him as well. You would have noticed that, if you would had read our posts more accurately. This boy takes every single word of his idols as the one and only truth - like a religious fundamentalist every single word of the accordingly holy book.Contra-Nietzsche wrote:
No. He didnt.Contra-Nietzsche wrote:
English isnt our first language as well.Contra-Nietzsche wrote:
You overestimate his intelligence. Although you said this in a more ironic or even cynical way, you should know that it is dangerous too supporting him in this way. I remind you: English is not my first language, and it is often not easy to find the right words in every situation of conversation. You know what I mean?Contra-Nietzsche wrote:
You overestimate his intelligence and underestimate his will to power. He knows that a new world order is unavoidable, and the Germans - as the most powerful race - as the rulers of the old or recent world order have almost had their time. That's why a new world order is unavoidable.Obviously Cezar doesn't know that the proclamation of George Bush sr. has been the North-American (= German) proclamation of the New World Order. Or he doesn't care about it because he says (probably rightly) that the time of the Germans is almost over anyway.Cezarboy might be right with that statement but that was not the point which we were talking about when we were criticising him. The main point of my or even our critics was mentioned and maintained because of the danger (cp. above).Cezarboy has a private interest in believing, e.g. believing in Spengler and Nietzsche: If we believe Spengler, and Nietzsche, it is the turn on Slavs to do something within Europe. The time of Germans is over. (**). Unfortunately Nietzsche said nothing about that, and Spengler said that the Russians perhaps will be the new most powerful race in the future, but not the Slavs at all, only the Russians. What a bummer for the Bosnian Cezarboy.
Insults, only insults! That shows us how much this boy is really frustrated!Arminius wrote:
But sometimes I feel so sorry for that boy.Contra-Nietzsche wrote:
You can't prevent it because he takes every chance. So he will insult you again.
Contra-Nietzsche wrote:
Apparent .... (**). But do you have any evidence or proof? |
412) Arminius, 28.03.2014, 01:44, 05:23, 06:08, 22:51 (836-839)
Lev Muishkin wrote:
It is. And he doesn't give any evidence or proof. So that has nothing to do with science, nothing to do with philosophy, nothing to do with technique (technology) nothing to do with (... put in ...) because it is only speculation, bumbledom, imposture, exhibitionism, and nothing else.Only bubbles and nothing else.
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If the climate is hot, then the endotherm animals are lazy. |
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Conclusion (conclusio): | Human beings are lazy in hot climate zones. |
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Only thing I care about Cezar is his activity since the French Foreign Legion booted him out. He is the only demented Nietzschean I know with over two decades of obsession with war, and complete lack of moral compass. I mentored him before he went into the FFL, and now Im stuck policing him. If you hear of him going to the third world, let me know .... **
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James S. Saint wrote:
»For want of a nail .... Rational Metaphysics is the nail they were missing. All of the world would be different now if not for the want of that nail. .... You probably wouldn't even have heard of the name Einstein.« **
I'd rather be a hammer than a nail.
Einstein was wrong, that's the point you seem unable to comprehend, God did in fact play dice with the universe. **
413) Arminius, 29.03.2014, 01:20 (840)
First of all you should notice that my statement refers to the stupid statement in this stupid topic of this stupid thread. If one says Germans (Americans, Englishmen) are not made for ... and it is conditioned through climates in the north (**), it is not easy to take this one seriously. I have tried to take this one seriously ..., ... but if the climate influences behaviour and thinking (and it does, although we don't know how much), then it is not in that way which this one's stupid statement suggests.Lev Muishkin wrote:
Little is NOT nothing. What we are talking about is not only philosophy, but philosophy, AND science, AND technique (technology), AND industry, AND economy, AND intelligence (brainpower), AND so on.Lev Muishkin wrote:
Thus it would be better, if people in hot climates can change into colder climates, because in COLDER CLIMATES it is MORE COOL. That is logical, even tautological.Lev Muishkin wrote:
The most people can BETTER THINK, when they are IN MOTION (blood circulation, you know?).Lev Muishkin wrote:
This argument is NOT a contra-argument to my argument. You have even more evenings in cold lands.Lev Muishkin wrote:
In the beginning of Kultur (= culture / civilisation) the hot climate is favourable indeed (because of the more fructuous grounds, the fruits, the harvest etc.), but LATER it is NOT. Why became the northern people the most important people of civilisation at all (= of the world) - that's the question. Because of the cooperation or interaction between philosophy, AND science, AND technique (technology), AND industry, AND economy, AND intelligence (brainpower), AND so on - that's the answer. And this is much more possible in lands with a cold climate. At last in this lands philosophy has even almost lost its worth because science, technique (technology), industry, economy, intelligence (brainpower) etc. have become more important than philosophy.Philosophy is much needed in the beginning of Kultur (= culture / civilisation), but at last it is less needed because science, technique (technology), industry, economy, intelligence (brainpower) etc. have almost replaced it.In other words: When it comes to Kultur (= culture
/ civilisation) hot climate is only favourable in the beginning, later it is unfavourable.
The modern times of Kultur is Zivilisation (cp. Oswald Spengler) and this means
e.g. in history of ideas or intellectual history that science, technique (technology),
industry, economy, intelligence (brainpower) etc. have almost replaced philosophy. |
414) Arminius, 30.03.2014, 21:29, 21:43 (841-842)
Mr. Reasonable wrote:
Lev Muishkin wrote:
Mr. Reasonable wrote:
YOU have and will have NOTHING because YOU have and will have NO POWER.
Try to think. | ||
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415) Arminius, 31.03.2014, 10:52, 19:43, 20:12, 23:10 (843-846)
James S. Saint wrote:
I found two questions in that text: |
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The question is »Which clock will stop?« and »Why?«
First try to answer that question using special relativity concepts (no actual math required). In special relativity, the speed of light must always remain constant relative to each and every observer regardless of his own speed or the speed of the light source. So the train observer must observe light traveling toward him at exactly the same speed as the station observer sees any light traveling to the station. The paradox is that in the provided situation and according to special relativity, the light must reach both observers at the same time, but obviously cannot ... and does not. **
This thread, toward the end, answers the question (if you can sort through the argumentation). If you are interested in RM:AO, a Unified Field Theory, you can read from several sites, one of which you mentioned (**) .... Or another RM:AO Fundamentals. Or in another thread here, A New Theory for a Quantum World, p14. But that one has a great deal of argumentation to skim through. **
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There is one frame within the infinite number of possible frames of reference that is unique. I prefer to call it the »metaframe of absolute vacuum«. It is not a frame that can physically exist but is rather merely a reference much like absolute zero and infinity in mathematics. It can be approached but never reached. It is purely conceptual.
Within that metaframe, any potential to affect has one specific propagation speed based strictly upon the logic of an infinitely rapid change in potential traversing each infinitesimal point on a line in sequence. And because each point requires an infinitesimal amount of time and there are an infinite number of such points from zero to one, the propagation speed must be finite, and in RM:AO is defined as 1 propagation speed unit, »c00«. There is nothing else in existence with which to proclaim another relative motion reference frame so relativity and Lorentz equations cannot apply. The speed is only in reference to total non-existence.
That singular speed can never be anything but what it is simply because there is nothing with which to change it. It has no variables. But if one propagating affect crosses the path of another, the speed of each becomes affected, specifically slowed. And since any physically existent universe must have affects traveling in all direction all of the time (absolute zero being impossible), every region of real space is slowing every affect traveling through it. If one thinks about deep space between the galaxies, one must realize that all of the stars can be seen from every point and thus every point is always flooded by light. Deep space is at least an ocean of photons. And each photon, being a traveling affect, slows the others. The resultant rate of propagation is referred to as »c0« in physics.
But unlike c00, c0 has variables that can alter it; the density of affectance as well as any motion of one region compared to another. So c0 can actually change for each region of space relative to c00, which cannot change.
This ability for c0 to be different from region to region is what allows the appearance of the speed of light to be the same for each observer even when an observer is moving relative to the others. The observer's measured speed of light, c0, is not exactly the same for every observer, but can be extremely close.
In the physical universe, each object carries with it, its own small region of space. The object, being made merely of the affectance within a small region constitutes a »moving region of space«. And as light travels through such a region, the speed of that light is altered. If the light is opposite to the moving region (»object« or »observer«), the light will slow more than if headed in the same direction. If the light has the same vector as the object and the object were to be traveling at the speed of light, obviously the light speed would not be affected. And if the light's vector is opposite to that of the object, its propagation rate is severely affected by the oncoming object even to the point of being stopped, »hitting the object«.
In early physics, this effect was thought to be an »aether drag« affect (introduced by Augustin Fresnel circa 1800). Through an incomplete understanding of their »aether«, they presumptuously attributed properties to aether which are not the actual behavior of a region of affectance and thus ended up disproving their own »aether«'s existence. In reality, they merely disproved their presumptions about it which had become its definition.
When an affect travels through a region of affectance orthogonally to the region's motion, the motion of the region has very little »drag« consequence upon the propagation of the affect (none in the case of a simple affect). Light is not dragged sideways even though slowed from head on. This is an issue with which they were not aware in the 19th century and thus had defined aether as a substance with impossible properties.
With that one concept realized, the observer effects become mathematically coherent and the Stopped Clock paradox disappears. The light entering the region of each observer is altered to better match the speed of that region. And with any two observers, there is always a third in between having an in between consequence.
Augustin Fresnel and Hendrik Lorentz and I'm sure other members of the Royal Society actually had it very close to exactly right. But it only takes one non-logic presumption to establish eschatology (Nullius in verba).
So the resolution to the real situation proposed by the scenario is that in a »perfect vacuum« between the observers, neither clock would stop because both clocks are moving from center. And the reason experiments indicate an observer dependent speed of light, is simply because the speed of light in a real region adjusts to closely match that region, but not perfectly. More exact measurements will show that difference (unless they presume pure relativity when recording data, in which case, they only get the data they presumed into existence). **
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Mad Man P. wrote:
»God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.« **So true.
We, like spoiled children, think we know better than our mother Nature.
I hope she - as all mothers - forgives us after all the things we DID .... **
416) Arminius, 01.04.2014, 00:49, 13:33, 18:30 (847-849)
James S. Saint wrote:
Especially since Einsteins relativity theory became dominant.
@ Contra-NietzscheArminius is a well choosed name for the antipode to Caesar and all the other Caesars (including this Cezarboy here).Caesar and Arminius lived nearly at the same time - Caesar died 28 years before Arminius was born -, Caesar was the embodiment of getting powerful by money, and Arminius was the embodiment of getting powerful by virtues (e.g. of his tribe). Arminius defeated the ancient Romans because the virtues defeated the money. Rome at this time was merely a decadent civilisation and ruled merely by money. If Caesar had not defeated the Gauls, he would have lost all his power and probably committed suicide. Today the Dollar Empire has very similar problems like the ancient Roman Empire had at Ceasars time.In the year 9 Arminius defeated the ancient Romans by annihilating three legions of Augustus army - Augustus was the first Ceasar after Ceasar (himself!) -, and Augustus despaired of that fact.At that time the ancient Romans had reached their maximum of power, but had similar birthrates as we have today because they were just as decadent as we are today. They tried to replace the lack of children by slaves who were captured by war and brought into colonies. But at last the decadence had been stronger, so the Romans became less and less, the Germans became more and more the Imperium Romanum, and at last the Germans conquered the Imperium Romanum also by military actions.I am a part of the contemporary Dollar Empire and call myself Arminius, this Cezarboy here is not a part of the contemporary Dollar Empire - so he cries Dollar-u akhbar! (**) - and calls himself Cezar. But why do I argue like an ancient Roman at the time of Caesar and Cezar like a modern German at the time of Dollar? And why do I defend the situation of a German at the time of Ceasar and Cezar the situation of Caesar at the time of Dollar? Why do I defend the virtues and Cezar the money? Who of us searches profit?Since the beginnig of modern times in the Occident (in German: Abendland, which means evening land) science, technique, economy, intelligence (brainpower) and so on has been becoming more important than philosophy, llike I said (**). Northern people need no more philosophy - accept the one which has been belonging to them since the beginning of their Kultur: Faustian philosophy which is the one and only occidental or northern philosophy. Faustian means German, means occident, means northern (in contrast to Asia, Africa, Indigenous America, Indigenous Australia, and Eastern Europe). Faustian means science, technique, economy, intelligence (brainpower) and so on.
Nationalistic thoughts (**) ? That says the one who propagandises rassism and sexism.Here come some facts, data, and numbers:
Can you get this? Can you understand what the facts are talking about?You said: low birthrates are everywhere (**). For you everywhere is in Bosnia, isn't it? Look at the facts, data, and numbers! Get the truth finally! And stop dreaming!The birthrates and fertility rates (these are even more meaningful) in Black Africa (Sub-Saharan Africa) are the highest in human history - which means that they are higher than ever before.These are facts, which you don't know. You don't want to have anything to do with science, thus with facts, data, and numbers, because you are an speculator from the east and a little bit south where speculation AND ONLY speculation is domiciled. Northern and of course western is the so called Occidental culture / civilisation which has conquered the whole globe, and so the whole globe is more or less a occidental civilisation. I am not proud of that. And what does that have to do with nationalism? Nothing - except anti-nationalism (which is even more nationalism). You know nothing about that.Your thoughts are outdated because they have nothing to do with reality, nothing to do with life and nothing to do with science. You ignore or don't want have to do anything with science, technique, economy and so on, but these factors have been dictating us and our development since the beginning of modernity - and not philosophy, even not Nietzsche's philosophy (unfortunately or fortunately). The most of philosophy is as outdated as the most of your thoughts. |
417) Arminius, 02.04.2014, 16:33, 22:18, 23:00 (850-852)
@ Contra-NietzscheYou can run away from money (**) and nevertheless defend money. How? For example by doing and saying one thing without awareness (consciousness) and the other thing with awareness (consciousness). The decadent Cezar is a good example for that behaviour and verbal behaviour.Money has been belonging to our culture / civilisation since it was invented and introduced. Every coin shows you that money has two sides. Money is good and bad. Instead of bad I nearly also can say evil (cp. Friedrich W. Nietzsche who has philologically and philosophically made clear the difference between bad and evil). When I mentioned the word money in my next-to-last post (**), it was not meant on a value basis, but on a factual basis.I think, cultures and especially civilisations are not only games (**), as you said, they are games AND even more its contrary.Some people are interested in making the other people stupid. And because of that they want the mass of people to have less or even no more knowledge, no more wisdom etc. at all because this mass of humans can easily be replaced by machines (e.g. robots and androids) which are lovely slaves because this servants never rebell, if they are well constructed by their constructers (architects). This is and will be not a game (**), but this are and will be scientific, technical, engineering (also social engineering), economical, political, social, and, last but not least, cultural / civilised (more: civilisationised) FACTS! Faustian it is, and that means in terms of Kultur: Occidental it is, and that means in geographical terms: Northern European and Western European it is, and that means in historical terms: German it is. Shall we complain about its advanced decline after thousands of years?In the meantime the FACTS are going on.For this and the following century, or even the entire future there are two or even three possibilities of human development left:
If the mass of humans had, have, or will ever have a knowledge of that and a free will or a free decision, than this mass of humans would not have decided, would not decide, or will not decide to become slaves.
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Your third region of non »German« culture is Nigeria. They are expected to be the largest country by the end of the century, and strategically, the Air Mountains to the north would persent a near impossible to break backbone for the current NATO tactical synthesis..... if they take them, most of northern Africa will quickly follow. Time Table: 70 years.
They are going to have to fragment more though, they are trying to merge a classical marxist class struggle on oil dividens with christian-islamic division.
There are several countries around them with similar divides, thanks to the influence of french Marxism, russian and chinese cold war marxism.
I believe they will start modernizing their mechanized capacity within a 15 year time table when the US starts offloading its first and second generation strykers on the market as a increase response to African Union demands for increase patrol capacity for its peace keepers and projection of force capacity for a few rapid reaction brigades.
By the end of this 15 year period, the marxists should be at their high point, and population drift should start increasingly occur across international borders. Most will be south and west, causing the UN to encourage camps to the north, and funding will be inadequate.
By the end of the 21st century, whoever controls thd allegiance of the refugee communities, which wont look like camps but states, will control the countryside. The concept of nation wont matter much. They will be in the most immediate position to challenge NATO and ocean based trade along the north african coast.
I dont see why that is so damn exciting though for you. They will have even worst stability issues than the Charlemagne Empire that you two seem to look so fondly (and incorrectly) back to. **
418) Arminius, 03.04.2014, 00:11, 01:58, 04:10, 16:06, 16:27, 20:13, 21:20, 22:37 (853-860)
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The question as to whether ALL homosapian will be replaced is a bit like asking if the freight train will stop its downhill acceleration before it reaches the cliff. **
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Locomotive Breath.In the shuffling madness //
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Songwriter and singer: Ian Anderson. Martin Barre, Clive Bunker, John Evan, Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond. ** |
Arminius wrote:
James S. Saint wrote:
»In Man's lust to be God (to be the determiner of all things), he finds ways of doing without organic life because organic life is not very controllable.« **
That's MY thoughts! **
Arminius wrote:
James S. Saint wrote:
»He has found a great many ways and is pursuing very lustfully right now. So it would take quite a phenomenal event to stop his progress toward his own annihilation as well as that of all organic life.« **
And perhaps the machines, he created, will help him to bring him to his own extinction, his own annihilation. There will be only one way for last men to survive: the way of becoming cyborgs. But then they will be controlled by rationality, namely by machines outside and inside their own bodies. **
Arminius wrote:
James S. Saint wrote:
»One could say (much as it has been said), God is Jealous or God doesn't tolerate competition.« **
But the Christians did make their God, who was once an angry God, a kind of pet or toy. The Christian God of the modern times is a nice man with a long beard, and the modern Christians themselves are nice as well - as nice as e.g. Nietzsche's »last men«. So there is NO THYMOS in the world of Christanity, but ONLY EROS, which means that there is no balance or no harmony between this two foci of the ellipse named human soul. **
Arminius wrote:
James S. Saint wrote:
»Although it is a question of precise detail, I suspect that even the cyborg is not the final form. In the long run, there is no foreseeable need to have even a partial organic body. But perhaps there will be some remnants. The absolutely most efficient form is not friendly to its former self. Once homosapians can no longer procreate with humans (the hue of Man), homosapians are no longer the human species. - The internet is merely a step in that direction.« **
I didn't want to go in precise details. Anyway there is not necessarily a contradiction between cyborgs and remnants or loss of human procreation (descendants, children). **
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My question isn't so much about whether homosapain will exist much longer, but rather if any organic life on Earth will. Androids have sufficient cause and ability to dispense with all organic life completely. **
Do you remember The Moody Blues ....
And Iron Butterfly ....
Iron Maiden ..... **
And of course ... »The Day the Earth Stood Still«. **
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My question isn't so much about whether homosapain will exist much longer, but rather if any organic life on Earth will. Androids have sufficient cause and ability to dispense with all organic life completely. **
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The punishment for not agreeing with Lenin or Marx is DEATH! Watch yourself dying. Turn TV on, you little Last bourgeois. |
The punishment for not agreeing with Nietzsche or Vollgraff is DEATH! Watch yourself dying. Turn TV on, you little Last man. |
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Fuck you DOG, fuck you!
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If I say »he and he said this and that« it only means that you had the chance to understand it for 150 years and you motherfuckers did not manage to do it! Now you are MY DOG! **
It's now quite apparent the core of this text is Nietzsche's last work, and he also goes though alot of effort to track down what Nietzsche's friends and doctors thought of Nietzsche (including a rather hilarious insight to his doctors in thinking that Nietzsche was clinically insane until one sat down and read his works, and realized he was always like that long before his collapse). **
419) Arminius, 04.04.2014, 02:28, 03:13, 17:01, 19:28, 21:18, 23:23 (861-866)
Dan wrote:
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what do you see after the take-over of the cyborgs? |
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Here's my newest Animation showing eight Hubius Helixes being formed by a spinning/precessing ring of eight .... **
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I'm pretty sure that he means those points to be electrons. As much fun as it might be, I don't believe in the fractal theory and have substantial reasons not to. And I don't follow how the rest of that theory is supposed to work concerning gravity at all. He'll have to explain it to you. **
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Mechanisms need no purpose in order to continue for a very long time; thousands, if not millions of years. They need merely opportunity. People design them that way. People, needing purpose in order to overcome natural entropy, create machines needing no purpose but to defeat entropy. **
A totally man made machine world, imbued with self interest, »life«, will continue for millions, if not billions of years until there is no longer opportunity.
Those who design your societies think of people and laws as merely mechanisms, but think in terms of people as a combustion fuel, a gasoline engine rather than a magnetic motor. In the form of a magnetic motor, homosapian societies would also last billions of years without death or suffering looming over every generation. **
An added interesting thought is that since Man can currently absorb energy from nothing but empty space, is designing machines to be 100 times more intelligent and capable than himself, and those machines have no need for purpose, those machines, becoming very efficient at absorbing energy from space and having no concern for consequence, have every reason to become what we call a "Black-hole in space", doing nothing but absorbing energy.
So when they look out in space and they see a black hole, thinking of it as a remnant of a prior event, perhaps the prior event once was a planet with a life on it much the same as Man. Perhaps he is seeing the future state of passion guided organic life, a natural occurring eventual state in the universe - nothing but another »Black-hole in space«, his own future.
Of course that is assuming that he doesn't accidentally create a black-hole of himself before that point in blindly corrupting himself. **
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James S. Saint wrote:
»If we created a new race of homosapian, perhaps purple, what do you think would happen? .... Look what happened with the homosexual.« **
You don't think a new homosapian will be created? **
I think the more we explore genetics, the more probable it becomes. They can already tweak genes in the fetuses of animals including humans. I see it as just a matter of time. **
420) Arminius, 05.04.2014, 00:25, 00:47 (867-868)
Kriswest wrote:
That's a bit too optimistic because such an argument includes always the premise that people are good people but that premise is false because people are good AND bad (evil).
Are you writing, Kriswest? |
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