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NACH OBEN 1671) Great Again, 04.10.2023, 18:49, 18:57, 19:17, 19:21, 19:45, 19:59, 21:53, 22:35 (8933-8940)

8933

Language makes creation.

Without language, we would not know anything about creation and what creation does. And who or what makes language? Development (evolution or history).

So there are two aspects for this matter:
(1.) Language, (2.) development (evolution or history).

Lorikeet would say: (1.) Memes, (2.) genes.

Memes belong to language, genes belong to evolution.

8934

Lorikeet wrote:

„When reality breaks you insanity is the ego's last defence.“ **

Or:

When insanity becomes your reality, you break all the rest of reality.

8935

Ichthus77 wrote:

„What it means to be human is to treat the other as self. Doesn’t matter what you add onto that, if you don’t treat the other as self, you’re not human and you are not replacing humans. But/And on the other side of the same coin, if you do treat the other as self… you are human… not replacing humans. It doesn’t matter what you add onto that.“ **

You simply forget that there are beings, especially human beings of that kind, who do not care about that at all, but do what they want, each for himself and none for anyone else.

There are always those who are self-centered, have and do nothing for others, treat the others never as self. This fact is as old as life, especially as human life.

8936

Meno wrote:

„Ichthus77 wrote:

»What it means to be human is to treat the other as self. Doesn’t matter what you add onto that, if you don’t treat the other as self, you’re not human and you are not replacing humans. But/And on the other side of the same coin, if you do treat the other as self… you are human… not replacing humans. It doesn’t matter what you add onto that.« **

So AI can attain humane-ness, without actually becoming one.“ **

You simply forget that there are beings, especially human beings of that kind, who do not care about that at all, but do what they want, each for himself and none for anyone else.

There are always those who are self-centered, have and do nothing for others, treat the others never as self. This fact is as old as life, especially as human life.

That is why it is also human to be against everything human. Only humans can do such a thing - because they are human, which means: have a human language. Machines are built by humans, that is, they are human-made. So they will apply not only the positive, but also the negative characteristics of humans - sooner or later (rather sooner, because they are already doing it).

8937

Ichthus77 wrote:

„What it means to be human is to treat the other as self. Doesn’t matter what you add onto that, if you don’t treat the other as self, you’re not human and you are not replacing humans. But/And on the other side of the same coin, if you do treat the other as self… you are human… not replacing humans. It doesn’t matter what you add onto that.“ **

Humans are more than their genes in the brain cells. Moreover, it is nonsense to understand human beings purely in genetic terms. It is inhuman.

And that is why machines can never be humans, not even like humans. They can copy as many genes as they want: it is simply not possible to become the original by copying.

8938

Meno wrote:

„Of course they need to have realized the Mylar connection between brain and mind , and still then to come up to par to understand they were ‘made’ that way, in the image of that under standing.“ **

They can never have "recognized the Mylar connection between brain and mind" because this recognition cannot exist at all, because nobody knows whether this connection exists at all and, even more, whether the mind exists at all and what mind is, what it means, what it could be, if it existed. Mind probably does not exist.

The mind probably does not exist. Anyway, nobody knows. Nobody knows whether the mind exists or not. Nobody can prove something like the mind. So nobody can prove „the Mylar connection between brain and mind“ either.

Who or what is the mind?

8939

Mags J. wrote:

„And yet they gag for it to be so ... like b*tches on heat.

Why do some and not others, do so.. the undermining and usurping of the different others, no doubt?“ **

They do it because it is one of the many typical human ways of doing things. Some people just like to be like what you called „b*tches on heat“. Only humans (language beings) can be like that. Neither animals nor plants are like that.

8940

Machines are man-made.

Let’s let the humans be „A“ and the machines be „B“, which try to be like „A“, if „A“ wants it that way (whether„A“ really wants it is another question, by the way). „A“ is thus defined by the fact that it has appeared sometime in the evolution and has made later its own history independently and has tried to dominate the rest. Is that the same with „B“? No, of course not. „B“ can only copy (imitate) „A“. By doing so, „B“ has by no means become „A“, but has once again only copied „A“. „B“ will never be able to be like „A“. „B“ can copy (imitate) „A“, but never become „A“.

Machines can become copies of humans, but then they are still not humans, but human machines, i.e. still machines. They can try as many times as they want: they will never become humans.

Humans can try to become machines, but they can't become machines: they will always remain humans - even if they are machine humans. Machine humans may not be 100% humans anymore, but they still are not machines, and they never will be.

So there are only these two options: either human or machine. Even the hybrid beings are either one or the other, i.e.: either machine humans (i.e. still humans) or human machines (i.e. still machines).

 

NACH OBEN 1672) Kathrina, 09.10.2023, 20:49, 20:59, 21:30, 22:00, 22:00, 22:04, 22:59, 23:54 (8941-8948)

8941

Obsrvr wrote:

„Sculptor wrote:

»There is only the corporate interests that promote this rather idiotic myth.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself.« **

Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Maybe there are no corporate ideologues in your attic?“ **

Yes. He has no idea about genetics, biology and evolution, and now it turns out consequently that he has no idea about economics and orporate interests either, but only interests in conspiracy theories.

8942

Great Again wrote:

„Animals have an environment, humans have a world.
Animals adapt to the environment, humans do the opposite.

Humans have bare skin, walk upright on two legs, have graceful hands with a thumb that they can put in an opposition position to the other fingers (humans can i.e. throw, they are throwers; they can use their hands like tools and use them to make other tools, first of all throwing tools, later vaccines and nanobots), they have brains so complex that they could conquer and have conquered the whole world with their technology, they made themselves gods.

In nature, a naked skin, the bipedalism, the upright walk, the graceful hands and, above all, the very complex brain are of no use to humans at all - on the contrary: all these cultural advantages are only disadvantages in nature. Humans are not capable of surviving in a purely natural way; they can survive only thanks to their culture, which is based on their non-natural resp. anti-natural features.

Human culture is a culture opposed to nature. It is based on distanciation, not on adaptation.

In rudiments, a little human resemblance can be detectable in some apes (i.e. chimpanzees, bonobos). But you only have to look at these apes and observe them for a longer time to realize that they are very far away from humans.

Feuer

The early beginning of the human world domination.

„ (**|**) ** **

Absolutely right.

And that means: Darwins selection principle is false.

Nature does not select! Humans select!

8943

Lorikeet wrote:

„I simply say.....begin with the act, not the word.
The ACT.......reconnect the words to actions.“ **

Strictly speaking, you cannot start with the „ACT“, because without language there are no acts at all, also never can exist, because every act must be interpreted, in order to be able to be act at all.

What acts are, plants and animals as well as little children, who do not master the language yet sufficiently, cannot know. For them, what we call „act“ is part of the situation, which is largely interpreted as a whole. The interpretations and meanings are pre-linguistic, i.e. related to plant and animal language, which is completely semiotic but not yet linguistic, and to toddler language, which is only partially already linguistic and otherwise also semiotic, in any case for the word „act“ not yet knowing the meaning we as the others know.

Two ways have to be taken into account when talking about act: (1.) the way from language (a) to act (b), i.e. the way on which the semantics for the word „act“ is developed or acquired; (2.) the way back from act (b) to language (a), which can only be taken if the semantics for the word „act“ is already developed or acquired (=> 1.).

Thus, it is not at all possible to determine precisely whether what is pre-linguistic and concerns something that means „act“ for linguistic beings can already be interpreted as „act“ at all. And because one cannot do this, one cannot start with the „act“, but at best with an overall situation.

If it were otherwise, we would already know everything. But we do not know everything, and that is why for what we do not know yet and for what we will probably never know, we have only faith.

8944

Ierrellus wrote:

„It's all about choices now. As Auden wrote--we must love one another or die. Our world is a plenitude, a whole of many parts, all interconnected. I suppose it is fun to play the competition game in action or words, but that will not bring us together in peace and in love.“ **

Humans have by far never been as decadent as they are today, and now of all times - in their most decadent hour - they are supposed to be able to love each other?

Great jokes you make!

8945

I believe that Putin and the other representatives of the so-called „BRICS states“ will have no choice but to go along with what the globalist rulers want. They control everything, as Covid 19 has recently shown impressively.

8946

Ecmandu wrote:

„I’m a human machine.“ **

So you are no human.

8947

Try to do away with grammar, and you will see that it cannot be done, because a core grammar always remains, because without it understanding is impossible. We will see how far our language confusionists will get: the end will be like all previous ends of a language confusion. Language confusion is degeneration!

Grammar is everywhere, even in pictures, in everything and anything, because everything and anything can be interpreted.

8948

Lorikeet wrote:

„BRICS will adopt many liberal methods to establish their multicultural, multiracial, muti-ethnic SuperStates.
It's unavoidable that lies must be sued to maintain cohesion.

The difference will be in practice.
Multipolarity bets on racial disparities.
Don't you see it?
They pay lip service to this idea that races are social constructs so that they can establish racial states allowing natural selection to determine the outcome.
They know that whites will outperform blacks for example, so they tell them what they want to hear, avoiding conflict, knowing that in the long run nature will take its course.

US SuperState is already setting up a Brazilificaiton of America - melting pot, miscegenation, hoping that form the mix greatness will emerge.
When they are unable to compete with SuperStates adopting a different model they will have to adapt or die.

If diversity were a strength the US would be maintaining and expanding its dominion. The reverse is the case.
See what is happening everywhere they accepted migrants form Africa and the near-east.“ **

These peoples of the West are to be intermixed in order to weaken them and usurp their wealth. This is done by every possible means imaginable, from demonstrations and increasingly deadly drugs to civil wars of cannibalistic proportions.

 

NACH OBEN 1673) Kathrina, 28.10.2023, 01:00, 01:01, 01:09, 01:18, 01:20, 01:30, 01:32, 01:32, 01:37, 01:40, 01:44, 01:49, 14:17, 14:17, 14:30, 14:31, 14:49, 14:49 (8949-8966)

8949

„I don’t believe in anything psychic.“ (Helmuth Nyborg).

Source: ** .

8950

Lorikeet wrote:

„Natural selection is always unconscious.

Animals don't know and don't need to know what they are reacting to when certain signals of fertility are sensed.

Most humans don't know why they find a certain form attractive, the 7/10 ratio, or why they find something beautiful.
Their brains have evolved to recognize appreciate/evaluate and react automatically, without having to engage reasoning or the conscious mind, ego.“ **

Humans know it though, at least some (maybe 20%), and these humans also know that humans are the only beings who knowingly (knowingly!) fight nature, and they do so with the help of technology. I've explained it here many times (others have too), but most here at ILP are just too stupid to understand: The point is not to say that what is natural in humans is not subjected to what is commonly called „natural selection“, but to finally make it clear that it is only in humans that, for example, the unfittest have the most offspring and the fittest have the fewest, often none at all. And this is not natural, but typically human, also in the sense of what you call „memes“.

You yourself have said that memes are far much more important than genes. So we are in agreement after all.

Lollypop King wrote:

„Genes are inherited possibilities. Memes are far more important, particularly in a globalizing world where race mixing has made the lines blurry.“ **

What a certain ILP fool (I have him on ignore) just does not want to admit is that the theory of the theologian Darwin has weaknesses, that there are errors in it, because humans do not fit 100% into this theory (**|**). And this is because of memes. And it is right what you also have said: Memes are far more important than genes, „particularly in a globalizing world where race mixing has made the lines blurry“ (**).

It is a fact that humans are only to a certain percentage part of the natural selection and to another percentage not. Humans have been being on the at least 50% non-natural way since about 6000 years - with a prelude of about 20000 years - and very especially since the industrial revolution, which was above all a consequence of the scientific-technical and economic revolution that had already lasted several centuries, with consequences for medicine, pharmacy and hygiene, so that, for example, the child mortality fell to well below 1%. All this began in Europe and was later brought from here to all other countries of the world.

There would not be about 8 billion, but only about 10-20 million humans (0,125-0.25%) on this planet today, if humans lived (but they do not) 100% according to „natural selection“.

I have just found a text from ILP member Humanize that says exactly the same thing as several of my texts:

Humanize wrote:

„IQ is falling, more accurately general intelligence 'g' is falling. Since roughly the peak of the industrial revolution, 1880 or so. Lots of this decline has to do with the fact humans are for the most part no longer subject to purifying Darwinian selection, except in very extreme rare cases of major genetic disorders that can't be cured or cause infertility.

Prior to the industrial revolution, child mortality was high. Going further back it was even higher. This has to do with a hurdling model, what hurdles need to be overcome by an individual from birth to successful reproduction?

I know a discussion between two highly published PhD scientists talking about this, if you are interested.

We have reduced child mortality to well below 1%, and we have medical interventions to save way more people and help them have kids now than we did in the past. This means the ever-increasing mutational load in the population, which would otherwise be kept largely under control due to purifying Darwinian selection, is instead continuing to increase with each generation. In addition, the more intelligent people tend to have less kids, while the less intelligent people tend to have the most kids. Thus passing on those intelligence-causing genes to the next generation accordingly (intelligence is roughly 50%-88% heritable depending on a person's age).

This affects not only general intelligence but also things like mental health and physical health; personality disorders, immune system problems, vision problems (most people need corrective lenses, etc.), increases in sexual deviants (deviations from the genetically optimized norms), etc.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save people or help them have kids. I am just pointing out a natural consequence on the population's genetic fitness of doing that for lots of generations.

(....)

The dysgenics are acting on populations in proportion to how long they have been largely exempt from purifying Darwinian selection. So white Europeans are pretty much in more dysgenics than most of the rest of the world, at the moment.“ **

Right.

Again: „The fact humans are for the most part no longer subject to purifying Darwinian selection, except in very extreme rare cases of major genetic disorders that can't be cured or cause infertility.“ **

8951

Humanize wrote:

„IQ is falling, more accurately general intelligence 'g' is falling. Since roughly the peak of the industrial revolution, 1880 or so. Lots of this decline has to do with the fact humans are for the most part no longer subject to purifying Darwinian selection, except in very extreme rare cases of major genetic disorders that can't be cured or cause infertility.

Prior to the industrial revolution, child mortality was high. Going further back it was even higher. This has to do with a hurdling model, what hurdles need to be overcome by an individual from birth to successful reproduction?

I know a discussion between two highly published PhD scientists talking about this, if you are interested.

We have reduced child mortality to well below 1%, and we have medical interventions to save way more people and help them have kids now than we did in the past. This means the ever-increasing mutational load in the population, which would otherwise be kept largely under control due to purifying Darwinian selection, is instead continuing to increase with each generation. In addition, the more intelligent people tend to have less kids, while the less intelligent people tend to have the most kids. Thus passing on those intelligence-causing genes to the next generation accordingly (intelligence is roughly 50%-88% heritable depending on a person's age).

This affects not only general intelligence but also things like mental health and physical health; personality disorders, immune system problems, vision problems (most people need corrective lenses, etc.), increases in sexual deviants (deviations from the genetically optimized norms), etc.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save people or help them have kids. I am just pointing out a natural consequence on the population's genetic fitness of doing that for lots of generations.

(....)

The dysgenics are acting on populations in proportion to how long they have been largely exempt from purifying Darwinian selection. So white Europeans are pretty much in more dysgenics than most of the rest of the world, at the moment.“ **

Right.

See: ** ** .

8952

Where is Russia going to get the people with higher IQ (higher than the IQ that people in Africa and West Asia have), when Northeast Asians have demographic problems? Japan and South Korea have the lowest birth rates in the world; and the birth rates of the other Northeast Asian peoples is below the conservation level. The Northeast Asians have no people left for Russia, which is also one of the countries with the lowest birth rates in the world.

8953

Circumcision does not exist in Christianity, at least not in Europe.

Circumcision was rejected by Christianity precisely because it wanted to sharply differentiate itself from Judaism. Both have been being hostile to each other since the beginning.

8954

Most of them are not dumb, but comfortable.

They can, but do not want to understand.

8955

Sprachfamilien

 

8956

Humanize wrote:

„"If you want to see whose in charge, look at those you're not allowed to criticize."“ **

Behind this is racism against the white race and sexism against the male sex. Why? Racism against the white race brings a lot of money/wealth, i.e. wealth and therefore power. The same applies to sexism towards the male sex. Sexism towards the male sex brings a lot of money/wealth, i.e. wealth and therefore power.

Feminism produces women. who are no longer women, and men who are no longer men. This leads to the fact that the next generation is also lost. Here, then, the desire for population reduction is enforced, and this implementation can only begin with women.

I am for women and men as they have been formed by nature and culture and have offspring together. Everything else leads to disaster, disaster, chaos, entropy.

8957

Kathrina wrote:

„Peter Kropotkin wrote:

»Arminius wrote:

»20% of those who have income pay 80% of the income tax; 20% of the employees of a company are responsible for 80% of the profit; 20% of the products of a supermarket represent 80% of the sales; 20% of the scientists get 80% of the quotations, 20% of the scientists write 80% of the scientific texts. And just: 80% of the links on the internet point to 20% of the webpages. So the 80%/20% distribution concerns the world wide web as well. 20% of all internet links attrac 80% of all internet links.

80% of all ILP posts exist because of the fact that 20% of all ILP posts exist. 20% of all ILP posts deliver 80% of all really philosophical (which are few) ILP posts. And if we assume that the number of the ILP main-posters (those ILP members who are mainly posting, regardless in which of the ILP subforums) is about 40, then 32 (80%) out of 40 (100%) main-posters post on ILP because of 8 (20%) out of 40 (100%) main-posters. This also means that this 8 ILP members are the only ones who really deserve to be called „philosophers“. But perhaps the number of the ILP main-posters is not 40, but 20, so that merely 4 ILP members are the only ones who really deserve to be called 'philosophers'.‹ ** **

Besides me, I wonder who the other three are?« **

Here are the other three:

Die kleinen Strolche

** **

8958

But if you are one of the drug addicts, also known as „zombies“ (**|**), then you have more shares in the natural selection again.

8959

States no longer have any say at all. They are puppets, functionaries of the real rulers on this planet. And if you ask me whether Israel or the USA have more to say, I say: Israel. The reason for that is that the real rulers on this planet always make sure that all states and their peoples on this planet show themselves as Israel's friends. It is because of this that Israel is the most powerful among the states on this planet, although, no because, as I said, states have much less power than the real rulers on this planet.

8960

I did not say that it is a bad thing (**).

And:

„Social evolution“ is nonsense. There is no such thing as „social evolution“. What there is is a genetic-biological evolution, from which from a certain point of time and place - i.e. in a certain situation - a linguistic evolution, and included in it are the memes (they are linguistic), separates.

Only humans after suckling age speak a linguistic language. Animals and human infants speak only a semiotic language.

It is the linguistic language which has created a whole universe of infinite possibilities for a further evolution, i.e. history. At first and for a very, very long time, the linguistic language was scriptless. About 6000 years ago it became written - for known reasons. This has produced the also writing based history, whereby the language evolution has got an even more powerful push than before already.
And this is not a bad thing, but a good thing. But what happens today - the development towards an artificial language (falsely called „artificial intelligence“, which is not intelligent at all, but comparatively stupid) - that is something which is quite to be interpreted as a bad thing show, because it goes beyond humans (see: transhumanism).

8961

Kathrina wrote:

„Humanize wrote:

»"If you want to see whose in charge, look at those you're not allowed to criticize."« **

Behind this is racism against the white race and sexism against the male sex. Why? Racism against the white race brings a lot of money/wealth, i.e. wealth and therefore power. The same applies to sexism towards the male sex. Sexism towards the male sex brings a lot of money/wealth, i.e. wealth and therefore power.

Feminism produces women. who are no longer women, and men who are no longer men. This leads to the fact that the next generation is also lost. Here, then, the desire for population reduction is enforced, and this implementation can only begin with women.

I am for women and men as they have been formed by nature and culture and have offspring together. Everything else leads to disaster, disaster, chaos, entropy.“ ** **

I am a woman, and because I'm a woman, I'm not a feminist, because feminism makes women half men and men half women, so there's nothing left. What is a half man? What is a half wife? Both are sexless, incapable of having children.

8962

Lorikeet wrote:

„Demographics change when war comes and when ideals take over.

But, this will be Russia's and Europe's greatest challenge: demographics.
Importing replacements from Africa will not do.

The US is doing so, as we speak, to deal with the consequences of its Liberalism ..., let's see if Latino's and Africans will suffice to replace declining European numbers.

I think not, because I know race is not a social construct.
But, let's wait and see.
**

Yes.

But even then, if demographic rearmament in Russia were to work by Russia taking in Chinese, it would not be Russia that would benefit, but China.

I don't believe so much that demographic rearmament will work - except for those who benefit from it, and those are primarily not states, but private individuals, because they are much more powerful than any state.

But, well, that may change again in the future. But if it does, people will have to go through the biggest and most terrible fire that world history has ever seen.

Let's wait and see.

8963

These people live so far back in history that it is unbelievable that they themselves believe in their nonsense.

They act as if they are talking about things that were also nonsense two millennia ago.

8964

Well, it was their religion, their culture at that time. But as an enlightened person of the Occident, you don’t really understand it.

8965

Lorikeet wrote:

»A computer can be programmed to repeat data, at fast speeds...and yet it is dumb as shit.« **

Kathrina wrote:

„It is the linguistic language which has created a whole universe of infinite possibilities for a further evolution, i.e. history. At first and for a very, very long time, the linguistic language was scriptless. About 6000 years ago it became written - for known reasons. This has produced the also writing based history, whereby the language evolution has got an even more powerful push than before already.
And this is not a bad thing, but a good thing. But what happens today - the development towards an artificial language (falsely called „artificial intelligence“, which is not intelligent at all, but comparatively stupid) - that is something which is quite to be interpreted as a bad thing show, because it goes beyond humans (see: transhumanism).“ ** **

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I understand your „model“ (**) very well.

But you seem not to have understood what I meant when I said that China, not Russia, benefits when Chinese immigrate to Russia. Chinese think differently than Westerners and also differently than Russians. They will annex - sooner or later - the parts of Russia that have become Chinese.

Want to bet?

 

NACH OBEN 1674) Great Again, 30.10.2023, 00:00; Alf, 30.10.2023, 16:58, 17:04, 17:32 (8967-8970)

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Alf wrote:

„I miss Kathrina, Great Again, Sleyor Wellhuxwell, Otto. They haven’t posted here for a long time. Well, I guess that goes for me too.“ ** **

I miss you.

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Kathrina wrote:

Great Again wrote:

»Animals have an environment, humans have a world.
Animals adapt to the environment, humans do the opposite.

Humans have bare skin, walk upright on two legs, have graceful hands with a thumb that they can put in an opposition position to the other fingers (humans can i.e. throw, they are throwers; they can use their hands like tools and use them to make other tools, first of all throwing tools, later vaccines and nanobots), they have brains so complex that they could conquer and have conquered the whole world with their technology, they made themselves gods.

In nature, a naked skin, the bipedalism, the upright walk, the graceful hands and, above all, the very complex brain are of no use to humans at all - on the contrary: all these cultural advantages are only disadvantages in nature. Humans are not capable of surviving in a purely natural way; they can survive only thanks to their culture, which is based on their non-natural resp. anti-natural features.

Human culture is a culture opposed to nature. It is based on distanciation, not on adaptation.

In rudiments, a little human resemblance can be detectable in some apes (i.e. chimpanzees, bonobos). But you only have to look at these apes and observe them for a longer time to realize that they are very far away from humans.

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The early beginning of the human world domination.

« (**|**) ** **

Absolutely right.“ ** **

I agree.

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Kathrina wrote:

„»Social evolution« is nonsense. There is no such thing as „social evolution“. What there is is a genetic-biological evolution, from which from a certain point of time and place - i.e. in a certain situation - a linguistic evolution, and included in it are the memes (they are linguistic), separates.

Only humans after suckling age speak a linguistic language. Animals and human infants speak only a semiotic language.

It is the linguistic language which has created a whole universe of infinite possibilities for a further evolution, i.e. history. At first and for a very, very long time, the linguistic language was scriptless. About 6000 years ago it became written - for known reasons. This has produced the also writing based history, whereby the language evolution has got an even more powerful push than before already.
And this is not a bad thing, but a good thing. But what happens today - the development towards an artificial language (falsely called „artificial intelligence“, which is not intelligent at all, but comparatively stupid) - that is something which is quite to be interpreted as a bad thing show, because it goes beyond humans (see: transhumanism).“ ** **

Lorikeet wrote:

„Natural selection becomes social selection.“ **

What separates you and Kathrina are two words. She uses the word „language“, where you use the word „social“.

Language is not only, but more than „social“, not only, but more than „communication“, not only, but more than information.

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I’m back.

Thanks. ** **

 

NACH OBEN 1675) Alf, 03.11.2023, 18:24, 18:25, 17:26, 17:28, 17:57, 18:01, 19:00, 21:57 (8971-8978)

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What you have not understood is the fact that we divide language more precisely and extensive or comprehensive, and do not mean, as you do, only the linguistic language, but also the semiotic (note the difference between semiotics and linguistics). In other words: If e.g. animals communicate with each other, then they use language, namely the semiotic language, and already this language is more than communication and information, because the animals have a mission, which is: to protect the group or the pack, to warn, i.e. finally: to survive. After their infancy - every human infant is born too early - humans use besides the semiotic also the linguistic language, and it is it, which let humans become so successful.

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Your definition of language is much too narrow and therefore wrong.

So once again: Language is not only, but more than „social“, not only, but more than „communication“, not only, but more than „information“.

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Lorikeet wrote:

Alf wrote:

»What separates you and Kathrina are two words. She uses the word ›language‹ where you use the word ›social‹.«

Language is not only, but more than ›social‹, not only, but more than ›communication‹, not only, but more than ›information‹.« ** **

I use "social" to replace natural.
Natural selection becomes social selection.

Language is to memes, what DNA is to genes.
One carries the naturally selected past, the other carries the socially selected past.

Genes manifest phenotypes: memes manifest ideological types, or social types.“ **

I can agree to that, but I would just use another word instead of the word „social“. It is just the word „social“ that Kathrina replaced with „language“. And I can agree to that too.

This different choice of words results in a different choice of terms, and this different term provides a different image and thus a different interpretation.

My motive is not only that too much mischief has already been done with the word „social“, but also and above all that the social is also interpreted, and this by means of image as well as by means of word. And since interpretations are or become meanings and there were originally no modern technical media, but only living media, we have therefore become more and more dependent on the technical media, i.e. on the increasingly powerful control, which in turn forces us to establish our own words and concepts.

For example: Are „social media“ really „social“?

They are just a kind of semiotic-linguistic language, namely a modern technical kind of semiotic-linguistic language. And the have been being successful because of the evolution of language!

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From the naturalists' point of view, language-based evolution or cultural evolution - you call it social evolution - is a false evolution, a reverse evolution: a revolution. It is one that runs the other way around.

Kathrina wrote:

„There would not be about 8 billion, but only about 10-20 million humans (0,125-0.25%) on this planet today, if humans lived (but they do not) 100% according to »natural selection«.“ ** **

The point here is not whether the numbers are exactly right, but that the human revolution you call „social evolution“ actually fights natural evolution because it contradicts it, just as human technology does by exploiting nature and trying to make it its slave.

90-99% of the humans living on this planet would not exist at all, if it were not for the cultural evolution that you call „social evolution“ and which is a revolution, a reverse evolution (as if revalued).

In other words, 90-99% of the humans living on this planet would not exist at all if only natural evolution existed.

So 90-99% of the humans living on this planet exist only because of the existence of the Occidental culture with its technology, science, leading to industrialization (the greatest revolution ever) and to the health and thus population explosion of unprecedented proportions: from about 500 million to almost 8 billion humans on this planet.

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In his main work, published in 1818, Schopenhauer assumed two main propositions, one of which is that the world in itself is will. The world as an idea must therefore be based on something other than what Kant called the thing-in-itself („Ding an sich“ [**]). According to Schopenhauer, everyone is given to himself in two ways, as body and as will. According to Schopenhauer, there is no cause-and-effect relationship between will and body, because acts of will and changes in the body are a process in two areas: The body (and analogously the entire world) is the objectivation of the will, that is: the body (and analogously the entire world) is the will that has become imagination, whereby the stages of development of the world as imagination correspond to stages of objectivation of the will. All phenomena are nothing but objectifications of the one will that underlies the world as an unrecognizable thing-in-itself. This will is an unreasoning and blind urge (cf. theory of evolution **).

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Richard Dawkins' meme theory.

The core component of Richard Dawkins' meme theory is the assertion of a second, faster evolution that exists alongside the evolution of genes and runs independently of genes: cultural evolution, whose units are the memes. (Cf. Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene, 1976; Susan Blackmore, Evolution and Memes, in: Alexander Becker et al., Genes, Memes and Brains, 2003).

According to the theory of selfish genes, living beings are merely survival machines of their genes (cf. Richard Dawkins, ibid., p. 52ff.; Matt Ridley, Eros and Evolution, 1995, p. 20). Accordingly, reproduction took place less in the interests of the individuals themselves, but primarily in the service of the „selfish genes“ that constructed them (Richard Dawkins). However, this does not yet explain the role of human culture, which is why the construct of a cultural replicator with the name meme became necessary for Dawkins (cf. Richard Dawkins, ibid., p. 316ff.).

Memes are therefore fundamentally different from genes, but should be able to be interpreted as a survival mechanism according to a similar scheme. The evolutionary triad of variation, selection and inheritance (replication) also applies to memes.

Unlike genes, memes do not reproduce through biological inheritance, but through imitation. Whenever someone adopts something by imitating someone else - for example words and phrases, theories, techniques, fashions and melodies - a meme is replicated (inheritance). Genetic mutation corresponds to the modifications or new combinations of memes that inevitably occur in the process of imitation (variation). And finally, there is also something like a selection of memes. Memes are in competition with each other. According to meme theory, they need the human mind as a resource for replication. This leads to the survival of the fittest, as only a few theories, stories or melodies will become embedded in many brains over a longer period of time.

Memes are to culture what genes are to living beings. Ultimately, the actors are the memes, while humans as their supposed authors are merely their transport vehicles. Memes are therefore units that, like genes, "strive" to spread and multiply. „If someone implants a fertile meme in my mind, he is literally planting a parasite in my brain and turning it into a vehicle for the spread of the meme in exactly the same way that a virus does with the genetic mechanism of a host cell ....“ (Richard Dawkins, ibid., p. 321).

Memes compete to get into as many brains as possible and assert themselves there. This competition between memes has ultimately shaped our minds and our culture. In this sense, humans are all meme machines.
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Do you agree with Richard Dawkins?

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Lorikeet wrote:

Alf wrote:

»This different choice of words results in a different choice of terms, and this different term provides a different image and thus a different interpretation.« ** **

Indeed.
It is the basis of my perspective.

Alf wrote:

»My motive is not only that too much mischief has already been done with the word "social", but also and above all that the social is also interpreted, and this by means of image as well as by means of word.« ** **

Then my offering may interest you.
My position is that Americanised, i.e., western, man has been infected by a mental disease, a virus, carried by a parasite, but also a product of natural evolution of self-awarness, requiring a way of dealing with the negative consequences of objective self-awarness.
The parasite - memetic - exploits this for its own survival needs.

Words have been used to detach rather than attach minds to reality.
The sensation is pleasant, because existence is experienced as need/suffering.

These variants of ideological/dogmatic detachments I call nihilistic.
They start with the Abrahamic triad, and advance through Marxism to the present day postmodern/transhumanist variant.
There can be a variety of such contraptions because their motive is to detach form the only reference that can restrict human imagination: nature.

Nihilism is entirely linguistic, since it has no reference in reality and is motivated by a desire to escape it.

If anyone attempts to return words to their original utility these fanatics react with a passion.

For instance...concepts like god, free-will, morality, can be returned to their original meanings....but these fanatics do not like this, because their goal is not clarity and truth, but escape, pleasure, comforting.

Alf wrote:

»For example: Are ›social media‹ really ›social‹?« ** **

Social is code for socially constructed.
Race, gender, must become socially cosntructed.....by first detaching them form their real-world references.
All words must be given this nihilistic treatment.

Those that use 'social' in this way advocate social engineering, eugenics....whilst pretending to disapprove of such practices.
They invert everything.
They e hypocrites...and don't even know it.
Self-Deceiving.

Everything I've posted is in relation to this.“ **

Yes.

The influence is exerted via language, both in the most general (rather semiotic) sense and in the general (linguistic) sense with its special fields (e.g. science, law, theory, philosophy, thinking in general, etc., thus also memes), so that ultimately every perceived image can be (and in some respects already is) influenced in such a way that even an animal can assess this image more realistically than a human being who is under influence.

Lorikeet wrote:

„We need not adopt Dawkins completely.
Genes/Memes
Memes can evolve and reproduce.....languages evolve and synthesize with other languages; cultures splinter off into a variety of combinations.
Memes are extensions of Genes....and can become negations of them - nihilistic memes, i.e., dogmas, ideologies.
Cultures are gene-specific, and Civilizations - as Spengler said - are expressions of culture - their end-phase.
As there can be genetic organic parasites, scavengers, predators, prey, there can be the equivalent in memetic form.
There are memetic viruses, diseases - carrying ideologies that are self-negating, self-destructive, cancerous.
Zombifying memes, discontenting minds from reality.
Language is to culture (meme) what DNA is to organism (gene).“ **

I can confidently agree with that.

For me, memes are not only extensions or additions, but also counter-runners, because they can run against evolution, like a so-called revolution, not seldom successfully, although it is against nature.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„There are no memes without genes.

Healthy memes, aligned with nature, act as extensions ....“ **

There are also unhealthy memes. There are also memes that are not aligned with nature. They not only fight against the self, marriage, the family, the nation and culture, but also against nature.

Lorikeet wrote:

„I already said that memes, i.e., dogmas, ideologies can be nihilistic, expressing the self-hatred of individuals and even entire cultures.
Resentment of self, of the physical body, is a indirect resentment of nature and her uncertainties and indifference towards human preferences.
Americanism is a culture-of-no-culture - a resentment of the past, expressed as a positive progressivity that claims to be leaving the past behind, of transcending it.....of liberating man from nature, which si the sum of all past nurturing.

This is clear in the current identity crisis and this insanity concerning gender and pronouns, as well as Americanism's anti-racism idealism, pretending that the physical differences one perceives are irrelevant, or superficial, or illusory, and that all are the same.
Hatred of nature and the consequent natural selection "injustices".
Race and gender denial is a denial of the body and what it reveals about the past. It reminds them that they cannot escape the past, because it is constantly made present.
Therefore, the body contradicts Americanism's ideal of the self-made man - man with no past and only a present and a future.“ **

Yes, that is true.

Do you think too that what you call „Americanism“ is also successful in the destruction it causes? Can it not make people lose 100% of their connection to nature or reality? It can do this by simultaneously destroying nature almost completely and telling people that nature is a paradise to be reached, even though this nature does not (or no longer) exist, or that nature is hell to be avoided, even though this nature does not (or no longer) exist. Perhaps we are already living in such a form of virtuality.

All this does not have to mean that nature will really disappear; but it does mean: (1.) that humans (will) no longer know what is natural or real and what is not; (2.) that all previous values, including the value of knowledge, will disappear, and that means that Nietzsche’s prophecy of the revaluation of all previous values and his prophecy of the Last Man, who invented happiness, will absolutely come true.

Isn't that the most horrible thing you can (still!) imagine?

Long live the reference to the past !
Long live the reference to the tradition !
Long live the conservative !

 

 

NACH OBEN 1676) Alf, 28.11.2023, 00:00, 00:17, 00:34, 00:35, 00:36, 00:44, 00:47, 00:49, 00:53, 01:04, 01:20, 01:22, 01:30, 01:30, 01:40, 01:43, 15:10, 15:25, 15:34, 18:03 (8979-8998)

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The evilness behind the hypocrisy of certain people is immediately recognizable. **

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Americanism = messianism. It will tolerate no other system

Liberalism was supposed to undermine resistance to Americanism's planned New World Order.
New World Order = Americanism.
Americanism = no borders; free movement of resources, including human; no cultures, or religions, or anything that will disrupt this 'open borders world'; no ethnicities, races, sexes/genders, any biological identifiers - all will become a product and a service on the open markets; open markets, regulated by American corporations, censoring, filtering out anything that challenges Americanism; Tikkun Olam - a uniform, hermaphrodite world rules by a secularized priestly class: ethical authorities, experts, idols/icons of Americanism's ideals; nihilism: erasure of all naturally based identities converting them and inverting them linguistically into pure abstractions, i.e., pure ideas that can be easily manipulated and exploited by minds using semiotics - "healing" the world form its conflicting diversity.

Liberalism is backfiring, degenerating Americanism's citadel faster than it is undermining resistance to its dominion.
This is why Trump was elected - promoted by a segment of America's ((elites)) that realized, a bit too late, that their strategy was exposing them to the threats that were supposed to destroy other peoples.
They changed their strategy adapting to emerging new unforeseen circumstances, proposing a consolidation of America's power, in preparation for the US's future role, in a multipolar world, as a regional, and not a global power: one of many Super-States currently emerging.

Those in real power - the Deep state, neo-con, ex-Troskyite, Zionists - presently ruling the US, refuse to admit defeat.....so full of themselves they are, and they insist on maintaining the same strategies, the same foreign policies, the US established in the psot-war years.
The pivotal point being America's apex, the decades between 1960 and 1980 - baby boomer, Hillies generation Frankfurt School infected generation.
It was downhill from there.“ **

I rather believe that the superstates are also part of the strategy because they cannot yet be forged into a single entity. Later on, it will no longer be the US but China that will be the preferred partner of the much more powerful but few private data-and-money-people.

On the supposedly „open markets“:

The supposed „open markets“ are neither open nor markets. They are merely the area in which the very few most powerful people on this planet - as I said: private data-and-money-people - want to cavort, each having their own monopoly and defending it with and not (at least not yet) against the other monopolists, which may look like an oligopoly to the outside world, but are in fact several monopolies. Monopolies are on the economic side what monarchies are on the political side. So the monopolists (monarchs) will eventually compete against each other and destroy each other, and if one is left standing, he's been damn lucky.

Something new will emerge from this chaos. I don't mean this in the sense of the so-called „Old Testament“, but entirely in the sense of the facts that will have been created by then, and they will not look like the „Old Testament“.

States no longer have any power, but have degenerated into mere functionaries of those who really have power. History will show whether this will change again.

Humans will probably have to start again where they left off in the period between the Upper Palaeolithic Age and the Neolithic Age. But perhaps they will not be able to start again at all. In any case, they cannot expect a seamless development.

The only hope we can have is that the brakemen on the current unhealthy development will bring about something that will then perhaps lead to a turnaround.

It only works with the brakemen! Not with others.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„They changed their strategy and adapted it to the new, unforeseen circumstances, proposing a consolidation of American power to prepare for the future role of the US in a multipolar world as a regional rather than a global power: one of many superstates currently emerging.
Those who are really in power - the deep state, the neoconservatives, the ex-Troskyites, the Zionists - who currently rule the US refuse to admit defeat ....“ **

I also assume a multipolar world, albeit a staged one, because it is unipolar dominated.

Why do you assume a multipolar world?

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Libertad women - freed from biological males - raise the type of males they then complain about.

Ironically ..., the type is always in accordance with prevailing systemic norms - since they are now provided and protected by institutions - the state - helping them believe in the delusion that they are strong and independent.
The systemic ideal male is feminized - hypermasculinity and the masculinization of females being a byproduct of male feminization.“ **

Yes, women are becoming more and more masculine and men more and more feminine, so that in the end there shall be neither women nor men, because there shall be neither those who can give birth to offspring naturally nor those who are intelligent enough to be globally competitive. There shall only be a few, only stupids, only poors, only „equals“ ..., thus only those who can no longer pose a threat to the power above them. This few, stupid, poor, equal, hermaphroditic slaves shall work and be allowed to consume, if following with enough courage the only true religion, but nothing else.

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However, we must be aware that „existence“ means something different in continental Europe and Iceland than in countries where English is the main language (UK, Ireland, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand).

Apart from a prelude in German Idealism, Kierkegaard from Denmark was probably the first real existential philosopher, others being above all Jaspers, Heidegger (the latter as the best existential philosopher - with fundamental ontology, analysis of existence, etc.) and others from Germany, Sarte, Merleau-Ponty and others from France, whereby the reference to German Idealism, especially Hegel’s, is of great importance. It should also be borne in mind that there is quite a bit of phenomenology in German and French existential philosophy and that German existential philosophy preceded French existential philosophy and differs from it somewhat in other respects.

Could it be that by „existence“ you simply mean „everything that is in the universe“? If so, then a continental European and also an Icelander (if there were an existential philosopher in Iceland) would say that „existence“ and „everything that is in the universe“ have a lot in common, but both do nevertheless not mean the same thing. In any case, every continental European would say that there is not only an objective side to existence, but always a subjective side to existence as well. Every continental European existential philosopher also always takes into account the subjective side of existence - one more than the other.

So please explain to me what exactly you mean by „existence“, because I wonder whether you can agree with the continental European interpretation of it.

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Humanize wrote:

„Humans create or at least highly manipulate their environments; we don't just adapt to survive, we adapt our own environments to ourselves.“ **

And this means that there is not only a natural evolution, but also a cultural evolution (history). And the latter can contradict the former, fight against it, also successfully, even if ultimately unsuccessfully, because nature is superior to culture, but this is not so important for us as historical beings, because what interests us is what has effects in a relatively short time.

Humanize wrote:

„So using environment against genes as some kind of excuse just won't cut it. I mean sure, it does play a role, like there are certain incidental or accidental factors at play affecting people today who happen to be born this race or that race in whatever places on earth, but... let's not forget that those places and their environmental influences were created by previous humans and didn't just show up randomly for no reason. .... No one knows the exact amount of genetic influence on things like intelligence, but we know it exists, and at least some people are trying to measure it.“ **

For the development of intelligence and thus also for the development of intelligent cultures (advanced civilizations), firstly the genes, secondly the landscape (natural environment) and only thirdly also the so-called „social“ are important. Because the third (supposedly „social“) is already predetermined by the cultural - i.e. the language (understood as culture) - and can therefore only complete - nothing more.

1.) I don’t have to say much about genetics here. So I assume the knowledge about it.

2.) Too hot and too cold climates are not well suited for the development of intelligence/intelligent cultures. Europe, due to its climate, especially in its Northern and Western half, is a unique place for the development of intelligence/intelligent cultures. Thanks to the North Atlantic Stream, which is fed by the Gulf Stream, it is never too cold and never too warm, bur even much warmer than it should be according to its latitudes and its proximity to the continental climate of Asia.

3.) However, Europeans are also easily influenced by this, namely because of their cultural, especially technical success. The prosperity that came relatively quickly due to the technical success made them decadent just as quickly. First the degeneration attacked the nobility, then the upper bourgeoisie and finally the petty bourgeoisie.

Humanize wrote:

„But I mean, absent the civil rights era and all that shit, we might have largely overcome racial disparities by now.“ **

No.

Humanize wrote:

„Certainly SOME differences would still have persisted even in that utopian situation, but they would have been very minor compared to the racial differences we see in the world around us today.“ **

It is part of a strategy. And that is why the problem - with it money and thus power is gained - should not and will not be solved by the world strategists. It will be solved by history itself or - at last - by natural evolution. What does that mean? Humans will make mistakes; by doing so, either history (cultural evolution) or natural evolution will punish them.

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https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=198513&start=600#p2919623
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=198513&start=625#p2920055
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=198513&p=2920673#p2920673

The white IQ is higher than the yellow (Northeast Asian) IQ!

The reason why white IQ is still shown as lower in some statistics is that the IQ of immigrants to white countries pushes down white IQ and white countries no longer allow statistics on pure white IQ alone. This is racism practiced in white countries by white people against white people who are no longer allowed to have an identity (and perhaps soon no right to live?).

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Language must be freed from the prison in which it finds itself, because the enemies of language, for strategic reasons, do not allow it to be evaluated as it deserves.

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Exaltist Ethan wrote:

„It's been a long time since I post here, but I've been wanting to make a thread/poll about this chart that Redeemed Zoomer made online. According to Redeemed Zoomer, there are ten large basic theological premises that can be made if you ask certain theological questions. The list of different results include: Atheist, Buddhist, "Spiritual but Not Religious", Pagan, Hindu, Sikh, Deist, Jewish, Muslim and Christian. Hinduism seems to be unique in this chart because there's two ways to become Hindu: be polytheistic and believe in reincarnation or be monotheistic, believe God is not separate from the Universe, and worship idols.

I asked my best friend, the moderator of this forum, @Dannerz, and my therapist what my result would be, and both of them thought it would be Deist. It isn't. My result is actually Sikh. Given my result I have actually bought a Sikh audiobook of their complete scriptural work on Audible. I'm investigating the religion to see if there is more in common between myself and them than just our panentheism.

Falsch verstandene Religion

Taking part of this chart is so easy and it only takes a few moments of looking over it to see where you fit. Of course, there are more religious positions than ten, and it is still highly unlikely that I'm going to convert to Sikhism from a simple chart. Still, it's nice to see that there is a religion that believes in my same theological premise. I honestly know almost nothing about the religion, but I'm trying to learn more about it.

What is your result? Are you surprised at your result or does it make sense to you?

According to this chart, what religion are you?“ **

First of all: Nobody is a religion. I am not a religion, you are not a religion and all the others are not religions. Religion is something else. A religion is practised. You can perhaps also say that you „have“ a religion, but you can never say that you „are“ a religion.

Have a look at my comment pinned to your picture.

Your picture, which is allegedly supposed to explain „all religions in 10 minutes“, is good for nothing - typically nihilistic -, and contains even more than the six errors I listed in my comment.

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„A weak, immoral, disconnected, ignorant and unhealthy population is an easy target for the next stage. The creation of an entire generation of androgynous beings. Masculinity is under attack, pschologically, culturally and biologically. Women are being replaced in sports, entertainment and politics by men pretending to be women. And children are being indoctrinated at school to thin k taht gender is a choice. The transgender movement is not a grassroots movement. It comes from the top. It has n othing to do with people's freedom of expression, sexuality or civil rights. It's an evil psyop (psychological operation) with a clear agenda to get us closer to transhumanism by making us question the most fundamental notion of human identity, our gender.
If you don't know who you are, if you already indentify as a hybrid between a man and a woman, you will be easily convinced to become a hybrid between human and machine. Gender ideology is the »two plus two equals five« from George Orwells »1984« dystopian novel. It's the final test to see whether we will follow the most absurd party line towards our own distinction. But two plus two equals four. And no matter how you choose to dress, call yourself or change your physique will not change that. The sad reality though is that in the gaslighting process to get us closer to a post human future they have mentally and physically harmed an increasing number of children and young people. And it's only getting worse. This must be stopped.“ (Laura Aboli, „Transhumanism: The End Game“, 2023 ).

„Eine schwache, unmoralische, unzusammenhängende, unkundige und ungesunde Bevölkerung ist ein leichtes Ziel für die nächste Stufe: Die Erschaffung einer ganzen Generation von androgynen Wesen. Die Männlichkeit wird angegriffen, pschologisch, kulturell und biologisch. Frauen werden im Sport, in der Unterhaltung und in der Politik durch Männer ersetzt, die vorgeben, Frauen zu sein. Und Kindern wird in der Schule beigebracht, daß das Geschlecht eine Wahl ist. Die Transgender-Bewegung ist keine Graswurzelbewegung. Sie kommt von ganz oben. Sie hat nichts mit der Meinungsfreiheit, der Sexualität oder den Bürgerrechten der Menschen zu tun. Sie ist ein böser Psy Op (Psychologische Operation) mit einem klaren Ziel, uns dem Transhumanismus näher zu bringen, indem sie uns dazu bringt, den grundlegendsten Begriff der menschlichen Identität, unser Geschlecht, in Frage zu stellen.
Wenn Sie nicht wissen, wer Sie sind, wenn Sie sich bereits als eine Mischung aus Mann und Frau identifizieren, werden Sie leicht davon überzeugt werden können, eine Mischung aus Mensch und Maschine zu werden. Die Gender-Ideologie ist das »Zwei-plus-Zwei-gleich-Fünf« aus George Orwells dystopischem Roman »1984«. Es ist der letzte Test, um zu sehen, ob wir der absurdesten Parteilinie zu unserer eigenen Unterscheidung folgen werden. Aber zwei plus zwei ist gleich vier. Und egal, wie Sie sich entscheiden, sich zu kleiden, sich zu nennen oder Ihren Körperbau zu verändern, es ändert nichts daran. Die traurige Realität ist leider, dass sie im Zuge des Gasbeleuchtung-Prozesses, der uns einer posthumanen Zukunft näher bringen soll, eine wachsende Zahl von Kindern und Jugendlichen psychisch und physisch geschädigt haben. Und es wird nur noch schlimmer. Das muß gestoppt werden.“ (Laura Aboli, „Transhumanismus: Das Endspiel“, 2023).

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Lorikeet wrote:

„How often have I lambasted modern-Greeks for having been infected by a foreign spiritual dogma, worshipping a foreign god?
They now associate their identity with two incompatible worldviews: Christianity and Hellenism.“ **

I assume that in return you were downright picked on or ignored.

But in what way do you think that Hellenism is also incompatible? Let me guess: You mean the fact that Hellenism adopted many elements from the Orient and even subordinated itself to them. And that was a betrayal.

The intellectual-philosophical-religious path to Christianity - it went geographically from East to West - was a path from, for example, Socrates, Democritus, Aristippus (founder of the Cyrenaic, hedonistic school), Antisthenes (founder of the Cynic school) and above all from Plato (founder of philosophy, which means the striving for wisdom, and Platonism) and his followers (Platonists) and from Aristotle and his followers (Peripatetics), Pyrrhon and his followers (Sceptics), Epicurus and his followers (Epicureans), Zeno and his followers (Stoics) to the Christian faith, which became the Christian religion that turned cults into a church.

Von Christen zerstörter antik-heidnischer StatuenkopfVon Christen zerstörter antik-heidnischer Statuenkopf

Lorikeet wrote:

„So seductive is Christianity to the growing numbers of »spiteful mutants«, as Dutton calls them - I call them Desperate Degenerates.“ **

Do you mean Edward Dutton?

Edward Dutton

An interesting man. But I can't agree with him in every respect. He says that he can also distinguish between left-wingers and right-wingers in terms of IQ. But that is very problematic, because neither can be determined so clearly that they can be assigned to IQs without error. I, for example, have a different view of left-wingers and right-wingers than he does. More on this later (**|**).

Lorikeet wrote:

„Sheltering multiplies and compounds unfit genetic mutations, increasing the numbers of the feeble and desperate who cannot endure themselves, their own existence, without a plausible lie.
A lie that inverts reality, helping them cope.
This is why Christianity and Islam spread - Christianity = Judaism for the pagans.
The slave dogma was so appealing that it threatened its core belief claiming spiritual elitism.
This will be, for European man, the third extinction event.
The previous two sparked a rebirth ... what does not kill me ... and all that, but what was left unsaid was:
It may kill me, and more significantly, what does not kill me may leave me crippled, and may not, necessarily, make me stronger.“ **

These statements are similar to those of Nietzsche (written down in the 19th century).

What will happen to Europeans this third time?
A third rebirth? A new strength? Crippling? Death?

You spoke of the „the third extinction event“.
But why are you so pessimistic?
After all, there are other possibilities.

Lorikeet wrote:

„»Why is IQ going down?« - Edward Dutton.“ **

Quotes from that film:

„Being left wing is the major cause of sterility. If you look among the most intelligent people: if they are left wing, they don’t have children at all.“ (Edward Dutton, Why is IQ going DOWN?, 2022 ).

„I’m a British imperialist, a 19th century British imperialist. That's what I am.“ (Edward Dutton, Why is IQ going DOWN?, 2022 ).

„One of the things that makes us humans is that we struggle, we have to struggle.“ (Edward Dutton, Why is IQ going DOWN?, 2022 ).

„I'm right wing!“ (Edward Dutton, Why is IQ going DOWN?, 2022 ).

„To keep the IQ as it is now, just as it is now, so it doesn't go down further, ... you'd have to ensure that anybody below an IQ of 92, which is about a third of the population, didn't breed.“ (Edward Dutton, Why is IQ going DOWN?, 2022 ).

Sleyor Wellhuxwell wrote:

Politgeometrische Positionen
„If you look at the left, the middle and the right in connection with the progressive and the conservative, you have to admit that without the conservative nothing works in life. Those who deny their origins and do not want to be conserved are punished by life. Every living being feeds on its origin (past) in both an evolutionary and historical sense. **

The progressive is as uncertain as the future, the conservative as certain as its origin (past). The fact that in wealth societies the progressives form a majority over the conservatives has almost invariably to do with their cultural beingness, which has brought about their prosperity, and once this prosperity is achieved and continues to grow, then the progressive is thereby appealed to and also continues to grow. Our occidental economic »experts« believe that prosperity grows to the heavens - which of course it cannot - and so many progressives also believe that progress grows to eternity. And if they are not right-wing but left-wing, not labour/achievers but greedy labour-deniers (achievement-deniers), then they tend towards egalitarianism - read: communism - because it promises everything to everyone and distributes stolen money and property to those who believe in it and fights those who do not. Also, because progressives, especially the work-/benefit-denying left progressives, often expect and therefore demand more than the nevertheless perceivable real world and real markets can offer them, they are very susceptible to greed and envy and thus to egalitarianism because it promises them redistribution. The conservatives, especially the right-wing conservatives, are modest because they are down-to-earth, that is why they are very realistically oriented and expect much less, demand much less than their counterparts. The extremely overestimated importance of demand and consumption, for example, by the Keynesians (**), as well as the associated ignorance of the long term, are a very pleasant matter for the progressives, who want to consume here and now, but a huge evil for the conservatives. **

At the core, everyone is a conservative. (**).“ ** **

The classification is not easy; therefore the left-right issue should also be excluded from the IQ statistics. There can be both left-wingers and right-wingers for genetic reasons as well as for other reasons, i.e. in all social classes.

Sleyor Wellhuxwell wrote:

NO WRITTEN HISTORY and WRITTEN HISTORY
„One can best understand my illustration if one first separates oneself from all prejudices about the conservative, the progressive, the right and the left and goes back to the basics. Plants and animals are and also all humans up to the time of the Neolithic Revolution and the beginning of writing and thus also of written history (i.e.: the beginning of historical science) were never progressive and never right or left, but always only conservative, because they firmly believed that only the conservative ensured their survival and punished everyone with death who rebelled against it. So there were always a few anti-conservatives, but they had no chance of being realised until the time of the changes just mentioned. Conservatism has been so dominant in about 98-99.99% of human history, namely in their natural history (macro-history or evolution), that nothing else was possible - this is what I meant when I said: „At the core, everyone is a conservative“ (**|**). But since the Neolithic Revolution and the beginning of writing, and thus of written history, the anti-conservative has become more and more dominant, first slowly, then faster, finally exponentially, and soon called itself the progressive and also divided itself into right and left. The only problem is that this cannot go on forever, because it is not natural.

Politgeometrische Positionen
Choose your politgeometrical position!
You must always take this into account if you want to understand why there can be right-wing conservatives and left-wing conservatives as well as right-wing progressives and left-wing progressives. As I said, the conservative and the progressive (anti-conservative) are opposites. And the right and the left are also opposites. We think we know that a progressive believes in progress - that is not entirely wrong either, but still a progressive is first and foremost an anti-conservative. He is more concerned with opposition than with the content of his belief (ideology). There is always progress anyway. A left-wing progressive is the progressive who is not so much anti-conservative as the progressive, but is more specifically aligned against everything right-wing conservative. All live from the opposites. That some of them believe in progress is the theoretical part of it, the practice is directed against the opposition. Now you can probably guess the rest: right-wing conservatives and left-wing progressives, like right-wing progressives and left-wing conservaives, are direct opponents. The only ones who do not attract any oppostion, or, as you could also say, all opposition, are the middles.

A right-wing progressive goes with progress, but wants to control others for himself and/or his group by using technical and scientific progression and master morality, i.e. as a representative of the technically and scientifically progressive master people, he wants to control the rest, i.e. enslave the others, especially the left-wing conservative. A left-wing progressive goes with progress, but wants to control others for himself and/or his group by using technical and scientific progression and slave morality, i.e. as a representative of the technically and scientifically progressive slave people, he wants to control the rest, i.e. enslave the others, especially the right-wing conservative. The right-wing conservative goes along with the conservative, but wants to control others for himself and/or his group by using conservative values and master morality, i.e. as representative of the conservative master people the rest, i.e. enslave the others, especially the left-wing progressive. The left-wing conservative goes along with the conservative, but wants to control others for himself and/or his groupby by using conservative values and egalitarian morality, i.e. as representative of the conservative egalitarian people the rest, i.e. enslave the others, especially the right-wing progressive.

So we have for instance:

MOST CONSERVATIVE (PURELY CONSERVATIVE): CONSERVATIVE.
SECOND MOST CONSERVATIVE: LEFT-WING CONSERVATIVE, MIDDLE CONSERVATIVE, RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE.
THIRD MOST CONSERVATIVE: CONSERVATIVE LEFT, CONSERVATIVE MIDDLE, CONSERVATIVE RIGHT.
MOST PROGESSIVE (PURELY PROGRESSIVE): PROGESSIVE.
SECOND MOST PROGESSIVE: LEFT-WING PROGRESSIVE, MIDDLE PROGRESSIVE, RIGHT-WING PROGRESSIVE.
THIRD MOST PROGESSIVE: PROGRESSIVE LEFT, PROGRESSIVE MIDDLE, PROGRESSIVE RIGHT.
MOST MIDDLE (PURELY MIDDLE): MIDDLE.
SECOND MOST MIDDLE: CONSERVATIVE MIDDLE and PROGRESSIVE MIDDLE as well as LEFT-WING MIDDLE and RIGHT-WING MIDDLE.
THIRD MOST MIDDLE: MIDDLE CONSERVATIVE and MIDDLE PROGRESSIVE as well as MIDDLE LEFT and MIDDLE RIGHT.
SPECIAL CASE EXREME LEFT: EXTREME LEFT (LEFTISM).
MOST LEFT (PURELY LEFT): LEFT.
SECOND MOST LEFT: CONSERVATIVE LEFT, MIDDLE LEFT, PROGRESSIVE LEFT.
THIRD MOST LEFT: LEFT-WING CONSERVATIVE, LEFT-WING MIDDLE, LEFT-WING PROGRESSIVE.
SPECIAL CASE EXTREME RIGHT: EXTREME RIGHT (RIGHTISM).
MOST RIGHT (PURELY RIGHT): RIGHT.
SECOND MOST RIGHT: CONSERVATIVE RIGHT, MIDDLE RIGHT, PROGRESSIVE RIGHT.
THIRD MOST RIGHT: RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE, RIGHT-WING MIDDLE, RIGHT-WING PROGRESSIVE.

There are more than these mentioned 39 examples. History is full of them.

Like I said: the so-called »progressive« is the anti-conservative. Nothing is as anti-human as the anti-conservative. The left, the right and the middle are not as anti-human as the anti-conservative (»progressive«). They would have to become very extreme to be able to participate in at least one of the sides or the lower middle of the anti-conservative. And indeed: communism and fascism (especially National Socialism) are also anti-conservatives (»progressive«) because they are »left-wing-progressives« of the extreme kind and »right-wing-„progressives« of the extreme kind respectively. But the greatest enemies of humanity are the pure »progressives«, because they are the most »progressives« (most anti-conservatives). We can see this very well in the current development. It shows us that in a historically short time man will be replaced by machines with the aim of eliminating him for the most part and making the rest completely dependent on the machines, before this rest will also be eliminated. It does not get any more anti-human than this! In his book »Der Untergang des Abendlandes« (»The Decline of the West«), published in 1918 (I) and 1922 (II), Spengler already predicted that man is about to become the slave of the machine. Others also said this later, but Spengler was the first to say it and make it very explicit. Goethe (1749-1832) already said this, but not so explicitly as later Spengler.

If the machines are much, much more intelligent in terms of the algorithms of mental processes than the most intelligent human being and also than all intelligent human beings put together, then human beings will have returned to where they were before, when there was no writing and all human beings had to be conservative (for natural and primitive cultural reasons - they would not have survived otherwise). All humans will be only conservative again (or already dead), because the machines will have taken over the »progressive« (anti-conservative), and again humans will have to be conservative (for almost the same reasons as then - this time only as high civilisationals).“ ** **

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As far as music is concerned, I am one of those who have learned to only hear music, i.e. not to see it. But some recordings are also really good to watch, e.g. Pink Floyd in Pompeii.

- Pink Floyd (Waters, Mason, Wright, Gilmour), Live at Pompeii, 1972

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According to Schopenhauer himself the will is something similar to Kant’s „Ding an sich“. It is something we neither understand nor can comprehend. If someone interprets God into this something, he can do so, but he cannot claim that Schopenhauer also said it.

The will is in nature, and it manifests itself in the body. Everyone can feel it, experience it. According to Schopenhauer, there is no cause-effect relationship between will and body, because acts of will and changes of the body are a consummation in two areas: The body (and analogously the entire world) is the objectification of the will, that is: the body (and analogously the entire world) is the will that has become the representation, whereby the stages of development of the world as representation correspond to the stages of objectification of the will. All phenomena are nothing but objectifications of the one will, which underlies the world as an unknowable „Ding an sich“ (Kant). This will is an irrational and blind urge (cp. theory of evolution [**]).

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Lorikeet wrote:

„"Diversity" for dumb Americans, born and raised in a culture-of-no-culture, that have no experience with real traditions, is a concealment for uniformity of thinking.“ **

In this country-without-culture, the people - the so-called „Americans“ - are systematically dumbed down, e.g. Kropotkinized (to below IQ30).

Of course, in this country-without-culture, there are still such people who resist this process of dumbing down, Kropotkinization, but the demographic development is also going in the direction of dumbing down, so that the Kropotkinized can rejoice, if they were able to understand it at all.

The other means of Americanism are the drugs, which it likes to have produced abroad within the framework of „globalization“ and has smuggled in via immigrants (for Soros’ sake), the wars, also the economic wars (the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline by the NATO leader USA was a - and not the first - act of war against a NATO ally), through which a very few rich people become even richer, but the people-with-country-without-culture poorer.

Europeans are allied with those who are destroying Europe and killing Europeans. (So this also applies to European-Americans, European-Australians, European-New-Zealanders and all others of European descent.)

Lorikeet wrote:

„Superficial, shallow diversity, used as a thin veneer to conceal uniformity.

See, as long as you adopt Americanism you can pretend to be whatever you like.
Culture, for dumb Americans is a product one buys, uses for a while and then discards, replacing it with another.
Diversity, for dumb Americans - is restaurant selections with exotic cuisines, strange garments and languages, trinkets they purchase on their vacations and place on their bookshelves indicating how cultivated they are.

In fact, Americans impose uniformity on the world.
They will sanction or bomb another nation if it does not adopt American values and ideals.

Americans want uniformity, with a diverse cover ..., a facade.
They feel like they were chosen, like their Jewish overlords, to bring 'freedom' to the world, and they will bring it even if it means killing everyone who resists.

Americans are liars, or ignorant.

See, what real diversity means is that every culture can practice its traditions, in accordance with its values and ideals, but Americans will have none of that.
Diversity, for these morons is a garment you put on, then change for another.
One day you are a man, the next a woman.
One day you are white, the next black.
One day you feel like Szechuan the next you want Thai.
Funky clothes, strange music....incomprehensible languages, that's all they know of diversity.
No spirit ..., all materialistic and hedonistic.

So, all must adopt the American model, their Woke agenda, their open borders, open markets, or else.
This is how "diverse" they are.
As long as you follow their rules you can pretend to be whatever you like...this is their "freedom".
Free-speech, only as long as you do not have a mass influence ..., because then they will disappear you.

So, Europe must adopt the American model and import Blacks and Muslim Semites, and become another Americanised shithole...because that's what diversity is to them.
See Britain, France, Ireland ..., Sweden.
It doesn't matter if thousands of years of history and traditions are reduced to a fashion trend, all will become Americanised.
America has no culture, no shared traditions ..., the closest they come is thanksgiving, and the rest are holidays for selling product to dumb-Americans, or used as an excuses to travel...as if traveling enlightens and cultures them.
All America has is popsicles, pop-culture, pop-art, pop-music ...,popular ..., what can easily be controlled and exploited.
A shallow place full of shallow people. Nice, the way most shallow people are.
Beer and sports on weekends...March breaks, and Black Fridays ..., hamburgers and Disney tunes; endless discussion about sitcoms and Hollywood flicks...where they bond as if they were truly unified.
They sit around discussing what happened in the latest episode of a popular TV show, because they have nothing else to talk about.

They don't understand what cultural traditions mean because they've never experienced them ...“ **

True. Unfortunately.

They allegedly live in „God’s own country“, in reality in the „devil’s own hell“, from which they cannot see reality, but only the alleged reality: „God’s own country“.

Most of them are incorrigible optimists (= cowards, hypocrites).

They are forced to do so because they have no culture, no tradition. For those of European descent - by far the largest ghroup, the mass - any real reference to their origins is taboo, because it is „evil“. And even if it were not taboo, they would no longer be able to establish a real relationship with their origins, because it is already too late for that: they have long since identified with „culture-without-culture“, i.e. nothingness, their Americanism.

Lorikeet wrote:

„They don't understand what cultural traditions mean because they've never experienced them...not even in the many travels visiting local Americanised tourist enclaves that are designed to make them feel as if they never left home.
They believe that they are on a cosmic mission to liberate mankind ..., which is code for control humanity.

They can't stand true diversity...so they deny its very existence.
See them deny race and gender...some deny free-will altogether, converting their messianic agenda into a cosmic end.

Anyone who resist is a Nazi, or a terrorist, like they are depicted in Hollywood blockbusters ....or envious of their wealth and freedoms. They got that from their Jewish overlords, as well.
A psychological method of silencing dissent.
Their idea of philosophy is talking politics ..., American politics. They are the centre of the universe.
Going from LA to NY is like traveling to another culture ..., when it is but another copy of the vacuous place they left.

These imbeciles want to tell me I deny diversity when I want to liberate cultures from their Americanised uniformity.
Everyone should live in accordance with their own traditions, values, ideals ..., not as copies of American imbeciles.“ **

Fortunately, there are still some who do not follow this ideology - Americanism.

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„How can well-to-do members of society be so stupid to spend so much money on advertising only to confirm their belief in the stupidity of others?“ (Hans-Georg Möller, Luhmann’s Media Theory: The Specifics, 2023 ).

„Conclusion 1: The mass media supply society with a background reality that it doesn't agrree on.“ (Hans-Georg Möller, Luhmann’s Media Theory: The Specifics, 2023 ).

„Conclusion 2: The mass media make society restless and tense.“ (Hans-Georg Möller, Luhmann’s Media Theory: The Specifics, 2023 ).

„Conclusion 3: Their preference for moral communication can make the mass media a catalyst of conflict.“ (Hans-Georg Möller, Luhmann’s Media Theory: The Specifics, 2023 )

„Conclusion 4: The mass media make second-order observation the common mode in which reality is constructed and identity is shaped.“ (Hans-Georg Möller, Luhmann’s Media Theory: The Specifics, 2023 )

According to Möller, the difference between Luhmann an earlier philosophers of modernity is: modern thinkers emphazised a first person prerspective; but in todays society, where the mass media have such a strong presence: whatever we see, we see as being seen by someone; it is no longer seeing what simply is there, but seeing what is shown to be seen; in the 21st century, in the age of mass and social media, we need to see and show ourselves as being seen.

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Lucas Gage wrote:

„Why didn’t Hollywood show you this in their WWII movies?

Wahrheit über eine der Lügen über die Nazis

**

They will answer this with another lie: „These people“ were „forced by the colonial masters to participate“. In reality, many of these people knew that the Nazis, who were not colonial masters themselves (the German Empire lost its colonies in 1919 **), had liberated them from colonial rule, because the Nazis had defeated this peoples’s colonial masters (especially those of the British Empire, French Empire, Soviet Empire).

The Nazis knew from their beginning exactly what kind of resistance they would encounter from which people: mainly those who parasitically commanded both hyper-capitalism and hyper-communism (Bolshevism). Hence the name of their movement: National Socialism - as National it turned against the hyper-communist „International“ („Proletarians of all countries unite“), and as Socialism it turned against the hyper-capitalist „International“ („Markets of all countries unite“ - with the achievement of a global monopoly as the goal - later, since about 1990, called „globalization“).

** Germany lost its colonies in 1919 due to the Dictate of Versailles (also called: „Konferenz Koscher“): „Which hand would not wither that puts itself and us in these fetters?“ (Translated by me; Philipp Heinrich Scheidemann, Social Democrat, SPD, May 12, 1919; source: Stenographische Berichte der Verhandlungen der Deutschen Nationalversammlung, 39. Sitzung, 12. Mai 1919, S. 1082-1084).

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Lorikeet wrote:

Twitter

The hypocrisy is astounding ....
Now it is coming to light.
Before it would have been ridiculed and cynically dismissed as conspiratorial of anti-Semitic.

Empire in decline ..., this is why they are in a state of panic, starting wars everywhere, desperate to maintain control of the narrative.
Hollywood is plummeting, due to losing money trying to promote Wokism ....
God Woke, go broke.
The US propaganda machinery isn't as dominant as it was ten years ago.“ **

Elon Musk’s reaction is interesting.

What do you know about him?

Lorikeet wrote:

„E. Michael Jones wrote:

»In spite of their control of the media, the Jews are losing the battle for the public mind, proving that truth is not the opinion of the powerful. In the long run, truth is the only thing that will prevail.« **

**

And it is the history that shows us the truth.
That is the reason why lies are so often told just about history.
It is no coincidence that people say: „What dies first in a war is the truth“.
Think about who you must not talk badly about, and you will immediately know who is ruling you.

Lorikeet wrote:

Twitter

**

It is brainwashing, yes, but it is less compared to the fact that there is no longer a media outlet that tells the truth so that they can say what they want, even that there are brainwashed people - they never report on what harms their financial backers, but only on what benefits them greatly. If the masses do not have a media for themselves - as it used to be (not so long ago: state broadcasting, state press - all with an educational mandate for the people) - then they are exposed to the media of the very few, even if they see through their brainwashing and therefore naturally reject it. Power over the media is crucial. And the media are language, as are all digital data and money, for example. We are in a time of total upheaval.

This upheaval is at least as strong as the one in the Neolithic: the Neolithic Revolution. There was the time before the Neolithic Revolution, the time after it, the time of the High Cultures, which is not yet over, but will soon come to an end. Even if we cannot change this end of the High Cultures, we should by no means voluntarily expose ourselves to total destruction through artificial crises, and these artificial crises include, for example, the destruction of the white race through mass immigration into white countries, which has not only been taking place since yesterday.

Elon Musk wrote:

„The ADL unjustly attacks the majority of the West, despite the majority of the West supporting the jewish people and Israel.
This is because they cannot, by their own tenets, criticize the minority groups who are their primary threat.
It is not right and needs to stop.“ Elon Musk

„If you are a Christian, you cannot be completely loyal to your own people or your own nation, because your first loyalty is to Rome. That was one of the reasons for the German Protestant reform to break away from this loyalty to Rome.“ (Laurent Guyénaut).

Lorikeet (quoting Seethroughitall) wrote:

„Adam's Sin is What Made Humans Mortal, Repair that Sin = Immortality,
I'm Not Joking When I Say:
Judaism's Ultimate Goal is to become Immortal Androgynes Like the Original Adam (Exact Image of God),
»Adam's Sin will be Repaired in Messianic Times«,
Returns the World to State of Eden.“ **

It is a mental illness. They want to go back to „their“ Adam, who - allegedly - was a man and a woman at the same time, had an eternal orgasm and eyes all around his head (). And there are many steps, milestones and barriers along this way.

„These people are thick.“ (Adam Green Elon Musk). Adam?

Lorikeet wrote:

„Adam was Intersex (trans) before the Split. And According to Judaism this was the "exact image" of God (their God).
The Splitting of Adam and eating from the Tree of Knowledge, was acquiring the Knowledge of 2 genders and that Man and Woman could procreate.
Created become creators.“ **

Does the original Tora really say that Adam was both a man and a woman? I learnt as a child that Adam was a man and Eve was a woman who tempted him to sin

Is the Tora always renewed, i.e. changed? And what about the Old Testament in this respect? It has always been said that they have never been changed because they are not allowed to be changed.

From the information I have now received about the Tora, it is clear that the Tora has been constantly changed, and that means that, contrary to all other proclamations, it is not „eternally valid“ and „holy“ after all.

Lorikeet (quoting Seethroughitall) wrote:

„If You Don't Believe Me Here is a Kabbalist Saying It:
"That Original Creature (Adam) was an Asexually Reproducing Creatur."
"This is the Creature that was made in the Exact Image of God." (Elon Musk).“ **

Unbelievable.

I believe that they invented this story in retrospect, namely soon after transgender was invented.

Adam Green (in: Know More News) wrote:

„Who does Esau/Edom represent today, and what will happen to them in the end times? Is your intention to convent Christians to Noahites?

Rabbis Fantasize About the Destruction of America ....

(Examples: »Esau, who became Edom, who became the Roman empire, which metamorphosed into the Christian empire, which became Christian civilization, which is now represented by the United States of America.« »The Edomites are the Descendents of Edom, who is also known as Esau, Jacob’s evil twin, our tradition tells us, that the Edomites are the ancestors of the Romans and indeed of all Europeans and the entire Christian world.« »Christianity is Edom.« »Edom is the father of Rome, wht will later become the Roman empire.« »Reagrading Esau, Edom, we stress their concrete destruction and that God willo throw them into the endless pit of darkness and oblivion.« »The descendents of our people that were enemies to our people from the first day are still hating us, in the commandment ot their ancestors. The children of Esau that hates Jacob, the children of Amalek that hates Jacob, the children of all that ones that had that black bitterness instead of a soul, that black, dark, horrible, depressed, negative and awful shadow as a poor replacement for a soul is still hating us, still jealous, still don’t know what to do with our goodness.« »Christianity must be utterly destroyed, and that is how the full force of the messianic age will arrive.« »I am just describing you a devine formular.«).“ **

They are full of envy, jealousy, revenge, especially blood revenge, whereby blood here stands for the religious spirit (a meme) of a religious nation which, by referring to values that do not shy away from any crime, wants to impose its will on all other people in this world.

Adam Green (in: Know More News) wrote:

„Ben Shapiro's community, 'Right wing conservative religious Rabbis' are eagerly awaiting and encouraging the annihilation of the 'West' according to their prophecies of vengeance.

(Examples: »Europe, Christianity will be totally destroyes. So I ask you: Is it a good news that Islam invades Europe? It's an excellent news. It means the coming of the Messiah. Excellent news.« »You will dearly pay for it, Europeans! To such an extent! You have no idea! And you will have no place to run to! Because all the evil you have done to Israel, you will pay for it a hundredfold! When Italy will be gone, when Edom (that is why the Christiantiy’s headquarter, which come from there, is there, when that place will be gone, and that is what the Islam is going to do, Islam is the broom of Israel, you have to know it ....«)“ **

They speak af is they have an IQ of only 44 or less (like Kropotkin).

They also believe in reincarnation. For example, after Yasser Arafat's death, 200 rabbis from Piqquach Nefesh („juridical“ term: control of a soul) labelled him the „Amalek of our generation“ and suggested celebrating the anniversary of his death (11.11.) as a day of rejoicing. For them, reincarnation means „role of a soul“. And Amalek is according to them the grandson of Esau, Jacob’s evil twin (see above).

Everyone and anyone who is against them is Amalek. This is below kindergarten „rhetoric“, but more dangerous than any and all other inhumanes.

Emily Goldstein wrote:

„Yes, Diversity Is About Getting Rid Of White People (And That’s A Good Thing). Diversity is indeed White genocide. And White genocide is exactly what the world needs more than anything else.“ **

Emily Goldstein wrote:

Emily Goldstein

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Lorikeet wrote:

Noel Ignatiev

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Lorikeet wrote:

Noel Ignatiev

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Anyone who is anti-white is a racist. Anyone who wants to kill all white people wants to become a mass murderer.

Lorikeet wrote:

„Humanize wrote:

»I can show you the world
Shining shimmering splendid!
Tell me lorket, now when did you
Last let your heart decide?

I can open your eyes
Take you wonder by wonder
Over sideways and under
On a magic truth ride

A whole new world!
A new fantastic point of view!
No one to tell us false
Or confuse us
Or say we're only brains in vats

A whole new world!!
A metaphysical place I never knew
And now from way up here
Its crystal clear
That now I'm in a whole new world
With you« **

You are a walking cliche....
Disney lyrics?

Humburglar, if I'm a "racist" then so are you, otherwise you can enlighten us as to how our positions differ on race.
If anything, it'll give you an opportunity to prove, once more, how clueless you are, a fact supported by your positions on diversity.
The quip "how's that working out for you" is truly American ..., and it exposes what you think about truth ..., that it must always benefit you, otherwise it isn't true.“ **

This - „that it must always benefit you, otherwise it isn't true“ - reminds me of WASP and its history:

White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism => Utilitarianism => Cant (hypocrisy) => Adaptation to the hostile in the foreign (identification with the foreign aggressor who is actually the enemy), which leads to a hostile attitude towards one’s own group, its tradition, etc..

White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism („if I am successful, then God has willed it that way; if I am not successful, then God has willed it that way“) => Utilitarianism („the only right thing is what benefits me, what brings me success“) => Cant („if others are not willed by God, then I simply hypocritically pretend a lot to them, and if I am successful with that, then God has willed it that way too“).

And always think positively, always be an optimist (coward).

Lorikeet wrote:

If race is not a social construct but a product of natural selection, which it is, and if 'diversity is a strength' then how can you not contradict yourself by supporting the influx of legal or not, mostly male Mestizos, sub-Saharan Africans, Muslim Berbers and Semites from America's southern borders?
I guess all that diversity is strengthening the US by lowering its median IQ.....it is 'culturally enriching' your lack of culture.

But your cluelessness is most evident on what you think my positions on change are.
Change happens, it is how we experience existence. We don't need to support it for it to continue.
I suspect you meant social change...and you being a "progressive" believe all change is good, and that society is moving towards increasingly better systems.
In which case, America's future looks bright, to you and your kind.
A US where whites are 30% of the population and the rest are Mestizos, and African blacks, and Semite Muslims should not be feared ..., because change is always good, and you don't fear change.
But you'll be dead by then.“ **

Of course. Beaten to death.

And because that is too negative, a WASP has to reinterpret it into a positive.

His cowardice (optimism) forces him to adapt to the aggressor (Stockholm syndrome).

And: U.S.-Americanism is the extreme WASP extension. This already started with the lie of „God’s own country“ and the circumcision of its Protestants.

This U.S.-Americanism has meanwhile infected the entire West.

„We should stop this absolut self-destruction of the West. .... We - Western Europe - and modern United States should not be afraid to develop a certain pride in our tradition.“ (Slavoj Zizek, in: Festival INDIGO, Peter Sloterdijk & Slavoj Zizek, 6. Oktober 2023 Elon Musk).

However, it must not remain merely theoretical („philosophical“), but must become more practical, more real, more factual.

Perhaps we should remove everything Hellenistic and Christian from our Western tradition. There is more than enough left!

An increasing number of whites has already turned its back on Christianity.

„Christianity is not pro-white, it is anti-white. And it’s been terrible for whites. It was about conquering the Graeco-Roman European world, initially, when it was created. .... Christianity is dropping dramatically among Europeans and growing rapidly around for non-whites.“ (Adam Green Elon Musk).

But I don’t know whether Wotan, Thor, Donar, Freia, Zeus, Jupiter, Aphrodite, Venus and other gods are already more welcome again. Perhaps they are.
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I am not sure whether Christianity was invented in order to make it an antithesis in the Hegelian sense, thus an opponent (and that it, by the way, got later Islam as an opponent- second antithesis), but that from today’s point of view it is only interpreted in retrospect in such a way, so that it fits, because it can only be interpreted in this sense for a historically relatively short time (only after the end of the Second World War). They have been changing their allegedly „holy“ texts. I believe that they always go according to what has just happened (recent history) and then change the text in the Tora accordingly, but only if necessary.

So, maybe that Saul was an ancient special agent, so that he changed his name to Paul and championed Christianity in order to weaken the Roman Empire, so that the Romans could become and later indeed became Christians and therefore Zion worshippers, i.e. worshippers of the God of the chosen people, the God of Israel, and maybe that the Roman Christians became the first self-hating whites who destroyed the statues and other images of their own ancestors in a way that is strikingly similar to the manner of today’s „Antifa“ (Adam Green Seethroughitall und Adam Green).

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But by the beginning of the Middle Ages at the latest, this could no longer have been the case, because of the independence of Christianity (except in some certian European regions). This only changed when Western culture became decadent (just like the Romans were back then), disregarded its values, and soon even trampled underfoot. Since then, such an agent activity has been worthwhile again.

In any case, a proponent of the thesis that Christianity has never been anything other than a geostrategic object would have to provide more rigorous evidence. To refer to the sources of old texts is problematic if they have been changed again and again and are therefore possibly not old at all.

Nevertheless, Christianity was and is a problem for whites. But actually, it is Americanism that has the most damaging effect on all whites.

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Lorikeet wrote:

Einwanderungswahn

Hmmmm ..., I wonder why ....“ **

There’s a system behind it. It’s certainly not old yet.

Lorikeet wrote:

„Miscegenation is a war on specific populations - Europeans - because they are the real threat to Globalization, or Americanism.“ **

Europeans are the real threat to them, because Europeans are the most intelligent and therefore also the wealthiest (richest) people (it’s about hundreds of trillions of dollars) among all nations, cultures, races on this planet and are therefore to be mixed, destroyed, exterminated: Genocide.

This is no longer disputed by them: Racists!

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Lorikeet wrote:

„No, Europeans are the most resistant to authority....including natural order, making them 1innovators.....but also individualistic.“ **

Yes. At least, I hope so.

But why, since around the 1960s, have we been experiencing - slowly and weakly at first, then quickly and strongly - a similar story to that of ancient Greece and later the entire Roman Empire? They began to betray their traditions, to hate themselves and to follow a religion that was completely alien to them, while rejecting and soon forgetting their own religion. We are experiencing the same scenario today - with the exception of forgetting, because we have not yet forgotten the religion that many have already rejected. (Perhaps we should regard our very own religion - the pagan one - as a thesis, the religion imposed on us by force as an antithesis and the new religion soon to be implemented as a synthesis, which confirms the thesis and does not cast out the antithesis, but clearly rejects it. All old churches must be carefully preserved - as a reminder and a warning.)

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I believe that what we are currently experiencing could be a rather helpless, or at least fear-based, defense of the representatives and rulers of the old order. Much looks like it, especially the tendency towards war, anarchy and chaos. Of course, there may also be a broader strategy behind it. I always consider this possibility. But if it is not this broader strategy, but the rather helpless, or at least fear-based, defense of the representatives and rulers of the old order that we are currently experiencing, then the prospects for us are not bad.

 

Huntingtons Kulturkreise
und Weltpolitik: Potentielle
Konfliktbildungen
.
Global-Phase
Von Huntingtons 7 - 8  Kulturen sind
3 - 4 nicht eindeutig zuzuordnen oder
existieren (noch) gar nicht (**) !
Huntingtons
Struktur eines
Bruchlinienkrieges.
Global-Phase
d = „Diaspora“

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Lorikeet wrote:

„When a unipolar world collapses, it fragments into multipolarity.
A temporary state, before the process towards unipolarity begins anew.

We are in a cycle when nation-states are becoming obsolete, as did city-states.
The age of superstates is beginning, roughly aligned with Huntington's "clash of cultures." Each representing a culture with its own traditions, values, and ways of dealing with multicultural, multiracial, populations - and its own way of dealing with unfit genetic mutations, such as transexuality, homosexuality, paedophilia, etc.
America's method has faield ..., its melting pot, dilution of biological identifiers into ideological cohesion, is a farce dependent no lies: a gullible, dumbed-down, populace.“ **

Yes, but that too could be part of an overarching strategy. Sure, Americanism has failed - anyone who is not yet a a Kropotkinized could have predicted that -, and the so-called „fault line conflicts (wars)“ (Huntington) have been around for a long time. But why then are XI, Modi, Putin and other Non-Westerners participating in the still active order of the West? They are all constantly present at Klaus Schwab’s WEF and also implement all the measures of the digital-financial complex, usually even faster than the West itself.

Let’s wait and see.

 

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Lorikeet wrote:

„With nihilism all words lose meaning ..., they become self-contradicting, or self-negating.
They invert reality so as to adhere to their idealism.

For example:
Choice means you have no actual choice.
For example: you have only one choice which you cannot not choose.
So, no choice at all.
For example:
Morality is a social construct imposed by the powerful upon the powerless - Marxist dialectic.
So, amorlaity ought to be promoted and established, based on moral justifications.
The moral thing to do is to abolish all morality. The moral thing to do is to protect people from the negative consequences of their bad judgments....but there is no bad judgement because all is equally valid.
Morality is authoritarian, invented by some creator - if not god, then man - so all ought to be liberated from its authoritarianism and protected from the consequences of their choices ..., becasue it's the 'right thing to do'.
For example:
Diversity means uniformity pretending to be diverse.
You deny racial and sexual diversity among humans only, and insist that your values should be universal, and practiced by all humanity, but you allow the pretence of difference in style, or aesthetics, or culinary preferences, or sexual fetishes.
So, you can pretend to be whatever you want, you can fuck anything you want, but you cannot think, or speak, outside the uniform convectional, ways.
If you speak out against sexual degeneracy, for instance, you will be accused of sexual degeneracy ..., and if you speak out against uniformity and for true diversity, you might be accused of authoritarianism or fearing change, or being against diversity.

This is beyond Orwellian.
We are in a phase of complete insanity.
Empire collapse does that.
Men, born and raised under tis dominion begin experiencing the waning of its power, as an end of the world. There's nothing they are certain about, anymore, other than uncertainty - the nil is the only absolute left to them.“ **

According to Hermann Schmitz, this is due to the current phase of the ironic age, which now comprises three phases.

The man of the ironistic age is faced with the offer of innumerable technical possibilities without a predetermined path, which absorb him when he gets involved with them. They are constellationistically networked with each other, but isolated and scattered at his will. He has no backbone, no line to steer through the scattered offer, because he is ironistically attuned to being able to turn away from everything and turn to everything. His irony has slackened to the passivity of self-entanglement in leadership through networked offers with pseudo-sovereignty of arbitrary choice from them. **

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Seethroughitall wrote:

»Christianity denies Heredity, Genetics & Race.«“ **

The source of this nihilism that produced Americanism, and postmodernism, is Abrahamism.

It separates genes from memes, and uses memes, i.e., culture, to usurp or negate genealogy.“ **

They let it do, because they do not do it themselves. Christianity has to do it for them and does it for them. They continue to do what they want.

They simply do everything they forbid us to do, for example: they use hate speech, conspiracy theories, racism, sexism, xenophobia, fascism/national-socialism, anti-Semitism (because Arabs are also Semites, even more than 90% of all Semites) etc. etc. etc..

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Lorikeet wrote:

„In London and Paris you might think you're in Africa.“ **

I was in Paris with my girlfriend in June 1979; but I stayed in the city center because my girlfriend wanted to get to know Paris the way it corresponds to the cliché, so we didn't leave the city center - apart from our visit to Versailles. I was in London in the summer of 1980 and spent the night in the East End neighbourhood. I thought I was in Africa. There were even African huts made of straw, the only cultural heritage of Black-Africa. And as I walked on, I also saw Indian and Pakistani phenomena, certainly nothing English (and there has not really been anything British in England anyway).

Lorikeet wrote:

„Where did Christianity and Marxism spread?
In the urban centers where all diseases flourish.
Then, gradually the countryside was assimilated.“ **

When cultures emerge, they are still rural, then urban, but not metropolitan and certainly not cosmopolitan. They are only metropolitan and cosmopolitan when they are degenerated.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Promoting diversity using non-diverse means.
Why do we see in Hollywood films, television shows, and in commercials the same image of a black man and a white women, sometimes with their Mulato children, smiling happily.
As if black men were known for their strong family values, if they are not Christianized.
Why is it rare to see a white male with a black female, or Asians? You can't find an Asian on these adds, unless they're part of a group.
Almost always black man white woman.
Biden bragged about it publicly, proving what a shill he is, and how brain dead he's become.
What are they really promoting, other than the product?
Who is their target demographic?
They don't mix it up. They don't diversify their pitch ..., t's always the same: black man, white woman ....
Why is that?
And have you noticed how black males are portrayed ..., as intellectuals, as academics, as innovators, as mathematicians....HA!
There's science fiction and then there fantasy that is difficult to swallow.
Like the guy that invented Skynet in the Terminator series ..., a black dude.
Really? How far can we push fantasy?
We all know how mathematical and technologically savvy black males are.
And in the current superhero Marvel DC craze, did you notice how many black males there are, and how they are portrayed?
15% of the population and they are everywhere ..., as if they were 50%
I guess diversity means ..., no whites ..., no white heterosexual males, to be precise.
White women ..., they are okay.“ **

They are „killing two birds with one stone“: one is the one justified by religious scripture (kill Esau/Edom!); the other is the one justified by economic and financial hardship, which is being deflected onto everything else, distracting from the real problems and stealing all the economic and financial resources and assets of the middle class, which is almost without exception Western, i.e. white..

They must therefore share them as much as possible („divide and conquer“): Divide (1.) nobles and commoners/„bourgeois“ (beginning: late 18th century), (2.) commoners „bourgeois“ and „proletarians“ (beginning: 19th century), (3.) men and women (beginning: 19th century), (4.) nationals and foreigners (beginning: 1960s), (5.) heterosexuals and homosexuals as well as other non-heterosexuals or transsexuals (beginning: 1960s), (6.) whites and non-whites (beginning: 1960s), and so on. I have only split six times here (in reality it is more than six splits) and if I always split six times exactly in two, i.e. halve, I get: 1/64. See: (1.) 1/2, (2.) 1/4, (3.) 1/8, (4.), 1/16 (5.), 1/32 (6.), 1/64.

If I apply this to 100% whites, I get: 1.5625%. If, for example, I have 1 billion whites on this planet and I divide them six times, then I get 15,625 whites on this planet.

In this way, I can very quickly, in a „progressive“ course and an exponential acceleration, push the number of whites from 1 billion to 15,625, and this pressure is all the stronger and faster the closer the present approaches.

Within a very short time, especially in the last phase, the one billion has become 15,625, which roughly corresponds to a small town with 15,625 white inhabitants. Out of a total of 8 billion humans 15,625 white humans!

Again, in percentage terms: 100% whites are reduced to 1.5625% whites. Applied to the current world population of 8 billion, this means that 12.5% whites are reduced to 0.0196% whites.

Can 0.0196% of humanity still be dangerous? .... .... Only if they are the most powerful.

All this can be achieved in a historically short time. And the process is ongoing. The one who wants to stop it must be very powerful and especially very courageous. That is why it is all the more important to convince the masses, and this can only be done through the mass media.

Lorikeet wrote:

Diversity

What they mean by "diversity" is mixing - miscegenation - with the ultimate goal being uniformity.
They do not want a diverse human species, with multiple races, and two genders, they want a uniform mass of individuals who appear diverse because they wear different clothing or prefer different cuisines or listen to different music.

Their idea of multiculturalism is a culture-of-no-culture where culture is reduced to a product to be consumed; a mask one can choose to wear and then replace with another mask.

This is American "diversity" of products.
Americanism wants a world entirely Americanised - reduced to its model of culture being a product someone purchases, and then replaces with another.
Look at their "movie and music" industry.
Shallow, repetitive, recycled crap, always hedonistic...always repeating the same messages.
Their "diversity" is a cover for their uniformity.

Do they believe in races or sex differences?
No.
So, they don't accept biological diversity.
Do they believe people should raise their children in accordance with their traditions and morals/ethics/
No.
All must adopt their American values, and then practice their culture as a side matter, as long as it does not interfere.
Do they believe in cultural autonomy and living, in systems that are based on different values?
No.
Their values are righteous and universal, or there are no values at all.

This is not cultural diversity.
This is not biological diversity.
This is a facade ..., a lie.“ **

They do not want the rest of the humans to believe in all this, but they themselves probably believe in all this, in any case they misuse it for their goals or ends, because they consider themselves to be „the chosen people“, so they probably believe in diversity, in racial and sex differences, in biological diversity, in traditions, in cultural autonomy and living, in systems that are based on different values ..., and so on. That is a very significant difference, and they believe in that too, because they are confident about their success.

What they say in public and what they say in private are two completely different things - both are as different and as far apart as the sun of a distant galaxy is from the moon Charon, which orbits the minor planet Pluto.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„They have to impose their ethics, their values, their worldviews, their lifestyles, their ideals, on the entire world.
and when the world stands-up they accuse them of terrorism, or of being totalitarian, authoritarian regimes.

Leave the world alone to live by tis cultural values, its standards, its ethical systems....its ideals, its gods.

But these messianic fanatics, full of self-rightsous arrogance, will not do so.

Look at what they've done to what's left of western Europe?
Ancient cultures are still hanging on, but younger ones, like the Anglos and Francs, and Dutch, are all but gone, after decades of Hollywood and US Media brainwashing, and after decades of being forced to adopt Americanism as their model.
They've turns their urban centres into copies of American ghetto cesspools.
What culture thy had is all but gone.
Their leaders, as in Britain, are not even of their own.
What's left is still hanging on in the countryside .., like paganism when Judaism infected Rome's urban centres and produced Christianity.

Will there be a Britain or a France is a few decades?
In name only.
Any visitor will not know if he is visiting France or New York, or Algiers ..., there will be no Frenchman around ..., like the French national football team.“ **

Do you see no possibility of changing these situations? They are - all of them - incredibly damaging for all European nations - with the exception of the East-Central and Eastern European nations, which are too weak, so that they are left alone or also burdened with war (e.g. Ukraine).

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Families are the foundation of States, especially ethnostates.
They replenish human resources....and maintain a shared culture.

There is no culture, no nation without families.“ **

An analogy:

If cultures are like chemical elements, then the nations are the electrons in the outer orbits of the atomic shell and the families are the atomic nuclei. I am assuming here that you know which elementary particles are contained in the atomic nuclei. Just one more thing: the strong nuclear force (interaction) with its binding energy is enormous; but there is also the weak nuclear force, which is responsible for decay.

What we are currently experiencing in the West is a „reactor policy“ that uses the very strong binding energy released by „nuclear fission“ for the benefit of those who profit from it. This totalitarian „reactor policy“ as the total exploitation of „strong nuclear power“ goes hand in hand with „weak nuclear power“ as the totalitarian „decay policy“.

The only thing that remains is „radioactive waste“.

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Is she (**) the female Saul who later became Paul, because he had to champion Christianity in order to weaken the Roman Empire, which later actually became Christian?

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVj9qMblrvs.

They now speak about America being infested by a parasite...
I wrote about it back in 2019 - parasite-meme...
They can't identify it.
They describe it as a "cabal", a "globalist elite" that came out of Europe and has taken over the US.
But they can't name it.
They can't because of the risks - the blow back - or are they unable to identify it because they've been infected by its linguistic rules and regulations - its political-corectness - and anxiety at being called a "Nazi" or "anti-Semite" or "racist".“ **

„It’s ... this gnostic heresy!“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

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Lorikeet wrote:

„No woman are not becoming masculnie ..., they are given technologies to pretend to be masculine, e.g., contraceptives, surgery, abortions, institutional positions of representative power etc..“ **

Yes, but this is a cultural measure that is directed against nature. So here human history stands against natural evolution, challenges it, in the past one would have said: „blasphemes God“.

Women who manage without men are no longer women. Because women only have a sense in association with men.

So then, on the one hand, the word „sex“ has to be changed and, on the other hand, sexlessness has to be acknowledged, because women without men no longer need genitals, and if one wants to cite technical aids as a counter-argument, then I answer: these technical aids are precisely an indication, if not proof, that those who only use sexual aids because there is no longer a suitable natural opposite sex, no longer needs a gender at all, at least not in the natural sense, and therefore the word „sex“ has to be changed - as a substitute word for the word sex, I suggest the word „Eloi“.

But if you say that women only have a technical sense, then I can only say that this sense will soon disappear as well. Artificial insemination has been around for a relatively long time, and recently artificial births have also been introduced. Soon, the female body will no longer be needed for pregnancy (there are sufficient studies and experiments for this as well). It is clear what this is supposed to lead to. A few, after having eliminated the many, want to enjoy all the fruits of this planet, just as they believe it was at the beginning of the world, namely in paradise, only now they no longer want to be driven away.

They have continued to reinterpret their „holy book“ and, if necessary, changed it, so that it now looks as if the conditions of the past can be reached again by turning back the wheel of history.

Lorikeet wrote:

„Females are the ideal citizens.“ **

Citizens? Maybe, but not for me. For me, females are no ideal citizens, they ar not ideal at all, because they are only with males together ideal, provided that nature knows „ideals“ at all. From nature’s „point of view“, a woman cannot survive without a man. Nature has created woman and man, and not without reason. It is about reproduction and the division of labor. From this perspective, binary sex (two different sexes) is the ideal - anyone who interprets this differently is either not yet three years old or mentally ill (disabled, retarded, hindered) for life. But because, thanks to Western technology, we are now in a position to enforce any other form of sexuality, even against natural binary sex (two different sexes), or even to allow no sexuality at all: anything is possible here, albeit artificially.

So, once again: This whole development, which has only become possible thanks to Western technology, will not lead to better („ideal“) women - we had that before: back then with the proletarians -, but to the extinction of all humans. Transhumanism also means „beyond humanism“ in the sense of „no longer a human“.

Lorikeet wrote:

„They are easily assimilated, and they give birth.“ **

That is the natural aspect, a result of nature. Idealizations are part of culture, they are values. Again: For me, females are no ideal citizens, they ar not ideal at all, because they are only with males together ideal. If sex already exists, then birth only makes sense if there are two different sexes. Otherwise, a virgin birth makes more sense. For everything feminine, however, it is already the case that sexuality already exists.

Lorikeet wrote:

„Males are becoming obsolete.
Ironically, due to male creativity and competitiveness with other males.

Feminization of Man.

As masculinity declines the void is filled by women who pretend to be male - using systemic caricatures of masculinity as their guide.


This future androgynous human, will be mostly feminine.
The Jewish/Gnostic Demiurge.“ **

Perhaps males are indeed becoming obsolete, but this is due to technology (art) and not to nature. In any case, I know of no example from nature that has led from the masculine - i.e. once the masculine is already there - in the direction of obsolescence. Do you know of one?

We must always differentiate between nature and culture.

If culture takes a development that goes against nature in the long term - e.g. the abolition of the masculine and its replacement by technology - then nature will take its „revenge“ and correct this error.

9008

Sleyor Wellhuxwell wrote:

„Lorikeet wrote:

»Gonzalo Lira, „Roundtable #9: James Lindsay.

They now speak about America being infested by a parasite...
I wrote about it back in 2019 - parasite-meme...
They can't identify it.
They describe it as a "cabal", a "globalist elite" that came out of Europe and has taken over the US.
But they can't name it.
They can't because of the risks - the blow back - or are they unable to identify it because they've been infected by its linguistic rules and regulations - its political-corectness - and anxiety at being called a "Nazi" or "anti-Semite" or "racist".« **

„It’s ... this gnostic heresy!“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).“ ** **

Høy, Sleyor.

„Getting these people to fight with each other is hugely to our advantage. Making George Soros believe that the World Economic Forum is going to implement a gigantic program of social control that looks like China, which is what he does’nt want, is gonna make George Sorors screw with them, whereby he screws everybody .... More power to us, if that happens. We want them fighting with each other. ... They don’t have empathy. .... It’s relatively easy to get them to believe that the others, that a kind of collaboration ... (Gonzalo Lira interrupts here).“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

Those who interpret this whole thing from the point of view of the non-religious, but all the more secular or, as Lindsay says, Gnostic-heretical, are opposed to those who interpret this whole thing only from the point of view of the religious, namely the interpretation of an allegedly „holy“ text, and this text is always projected onto the past in retrospect, i.e. from the present, in order to make it look as if this „holy“ text had already known in the past what exactly would happen: „Esau“ then becomes „Edom“, „Edom“ then becomes the „Roman Empire“, the Roman Empire becomes „Christianity“, Christianity becomes „Europe“, Europe becomes „the United States of America“. The whole thing is related to the „sacred“ text completely arbitrarily from the current (respective present) situation, interpreted according to it, if necessary the text is reinterpreted so that it fits the situation. And this also happens with those who interpret the whole thing from the perspective of the non-religious, although they do not have a „sacred“ text to compare it with, but rather a secular course of study at a university or another secular convention. But both variants are therefore not harmless, on the contrary: all the more dangerous!

In this way, both the religiously motivated rulers and the non-religiously motivated rulers can enjoy the benefits. And that is what they want. In any case, both claim sovereignty of interpretation and thus power!

And in this case here we have to understand both - the religiously motivated rulers and the worldly motivated rulers - as pure theorists. Just as Gonzalo Lira said, namely that neither of these two groups have ever done anything practical, have no experience at all and, as Lindsay added, have no empathy, but exclusively use either insane self-centredness or mathematical constructs confirming their delusions (think of the perverse stock market speculations) and believe that because they can model or virtualise reality, i.e. are completely absurd and utopian, they can also be reality, because, as I said: they lack, among other things, any empathy and any practice. How are they supposed to know what reality is, what it means and, above all, what value it has?

The only thing that this decline of the modern West and the decline of the ancient West certainly do not have in common is the level of technology, which is infinitely superior to anything that has gone before. And this can be recognised, as Goethe poetically and Spengler culturally and philosophically very precisely described, in the tragedy of Faust. Particularly important is what Spengler meant by his question as to whether the future of the West (before its decline) should be more like „billionaire socialism“ in the USA, i.e. what it is today (and what Lorikeet probably means by „Americanism“/„Globalism“), or more like Goethe’s Faust at the end of Part II of the tragedy.

Unfortunately, we have ended up with „billionaire socialism“, which is the worst of all the options which had been open to the West until 1945. This will now be played out in a fatal way, and the only option we have as a Western people is to apply the brakes to minimise the damage (but is that even possible?).

9009

Lindsey Graham is insane, blaming moral responsibility on „the American people“, as if he knew what „the American people“ were thinking, are thinking, and will be thinking at any given moment.

At other times, he would have babbled along in the same „adapted“ way. The main thing for him is simply to have power, or (more correctly) not to lose the small share of power he has.

Graham is in politics what Kropotkin is in kindergarten for allegedly adults. These people are so pathetically submissive.

Lorikeetv wrote:

„Aldous Huxley: »People will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies taht undo their capacities to think.«“

I wonder if Sleyor knows this quote.

Sleyor, hvor er du?
_______________

Few of many examples in Newspeak (Orwellian):

War is peace.
Lie is truth.
Morality is immorality.
Good is evil, thus: evil is good.
Lack of freedom is fullest freedom.
Black lives matter.
Anyone who is against the Ukrainian Nazis is a Nazi.
Sexes are social constructs.
Feminism is liberation resp. emancipation from any male power.
White supremacy.
There are no races, only social constructs.
We are all equal: the same.

 

NACH OBEN 1678) Sleyor Wellhuxwell, 09.12.2023, 00:10, 00:13, 00:16, 00:20, 00:34, 00:37, 00:56, 01:09, 01:20, 01:38, 01:57, 02:00; Alf, 09.12.2023, 14:07, 14:40, 16:29, 16:58, 18:00, 18:04, 18:46, 20:48, 20:59, 22:04 (9010-9031)

9010

Lorikeet wrote:

„Three hardworking white men killed in a disaster in 1999. Their memorial depicted one white man, a woman, and a black man. The sculptor was Jewish.

Starr, Wischer, Degrave

**

Hasn't anybody noticed that?

9011

Lorikeet wrote:

„»Notice how these journalists actually hear people out.«“ **

Perhaps they fear that it will soon be their turn.

9012

https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=198249&p=2921859#p2921859

By the primordial substance „fire“ Heraclitus metaphorically means the „logos“

I have taken the following sentences from Heraclitus from the translation from Ancient Greek into German by Hans-Georg Gadamer, which I then translated from German into English:

„But of this Logos, though it is eternal, men gain no understanding, either before they have heard it, nor as soon as they have heard it. Everything happens according to this Logos, and yet they behave like untried people, as often as they try with such words and deeds as I announce, dissecting each one according to its nature and interpreting how it is with it.“

„That is why it is our duty to follow what we have in common. But although the Logos is common to all, most of them live as if they had an insight of their own.“

„If you have heard not me, but my Logos, it is wise to admit that all things are one.“

„You can’t find out the boundaries of the soul, and whether you walk every road; that's how deep it is.“

9013

The early philosophers before the paradigm shift saw the world as a whole dynamically, as the work of polarly interlocking forces, which (according to Heraclitus) result in a contrary coincidence, as in the case of bow and lyre, a whole that agrees with itself, striving apart. This dynamic then flattens out to kinetics, as shown by Plato’s misunderstanding that Heraclitus taught that everything flows. **

 

9014

Humanize wrote:

„For me, each of the following words means the same thing: existence, reality, fact, truth, is. They all point to or indicate the same content and meaning, the same thing. They are also truistic and tautological, meaning that in a curious way they are self-contained in their meaning/content-space.

Granted you can apply those words to anything, any limited scope however small or large. But that is the point. They are universally applicable. They are five different linguistic formulations of indicating one and the same thing. And I wouldn't know much about continental or otherwise academic philosophers' takes on this, I stopped paying attention to that sort of thing a long time ago.“ **

 
9015

Lorikeet wrote:

„Yes ..., nihilism is defensive ..., and it can be manipulated to produce a desired outcome.
Nihilism is entirely semiotic, making it the perfect tool/weapon, to subjugate thinking.“ **

Are you thinking of something like Kabbalah?

9016

Lorikeet wrote:

„Lucas Gage wrote

»Imagine I was kicked out every restaurant for 2000 years.

Who's fault is it?

Way of the World wrote:

›We are a people that has been kicked out of every place we've ever lived for 2000 years. Every. Single. Place.‹ ....« **

They always tell you what happened to them, not why.

Is it all another's fault?
They've done nothing?“ **

It is all another's fault.
They've done nothing.
They have never done anything.
Because they are not capable of doing anything.

These people are mentally ill and obsessed with their victimism.
____________________________________________________________________________

Did this fat man shown in the film also tell his listeners that he himself cannot really speak of a whole „we“ in connection with 2000 years? Of course: No. But he has no evidence at all of an eventual 2000-year-long tracing of his ancestors.

However, if he himself belongs to the the most powerful people that can expel, relocate, murder all people in every single place (Every.Single.Place) as they want, then he can also assert the role of victim as much as he wants.

And how is it possible to have been expelled from every single place for 2000 years and yet have been in a single place for 2000 years (thus: at the same time)? Because if they had never been able to stay in one place, they would not have been anywhere since the time when there was no more room for them. Or have they been able to re-inhabit every single place over and over again? If so, then it is no longer true that they have been expelled from every single place.

But it can be read in history books that in Europe, for example, they lived permanently in certain places of certain cities, some of them even since the time after the Jewish War (66-70 [destruction of the Jerusalem Temple, 70] or 73/74), after the Diaspora Revolt (115-117) or after the Bar Kochba Revolt (132-136).

In other words: That fat man is lying - as usual, every single day (Every.Single.Day).
____________________________________________________________________________

Imagine if you had always been sent off or even kicked out of every single stadium for your offside position at a football match for 2000 years.

9017

Lira, Naomi, Lindsay

„China declared George Soros a terrorist and a demon.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„I think that China is what China is today, becaue the West built China to be what it is, so that we can use it as a monster that we scare people with, to say that we have to become like that.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„A communist-faschist China with the communism in charge and faschist-communist West with the faschism in charge would fit dialectical opposites - as a model.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„The world building architects ...: I have stopped identifying them as the United States, I see them as a parasitic growth on the side of the United States.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„They really can’t tolerate a critical mass .... A critical mass might be as small as 4 or 5% of the population. It can really screw up the implemantation of these plans.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„How do we replace these damned people“ (Gonzalo Lira, 2022 ).

„Nuremberg 2.“ (James Lindsay ).

„This is a breakdown of a civil society. And Soros is the one funding it.“ (Gonzalo Lira,. 2022 ).

„It is going to look like a replacement of the exsiting regime.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„We gonna have to replace them.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„What they want ist a completely predictable world.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„I think that they intend that the majority of the people are gonna be managed like zoo animals.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„There have been - of course - mass CEO exodusses over the last couple of years. Those are probably very suspecious. ... Elon Musk kind of rattles the cage a little bit. ... Jeff Bezos is acting weird. .... He ist agreeing openly with Musk ....“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831)Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831)
 
„There are correct reasons why people are engaging in this things, and there are incorrect reasons; and if we pay attention to the correct reasons, we see that there has been at least over the last 300 years or - let’s be more correct - last 190 years (Lindsay means: 191 years, namely since 1831, when Hegel died and the Old [Right] and Young [Left] Hegelians became the two prominent political forces in German thougt, the two competing most influencial lines of polical philosphical fight [see below]) for certain and probably the last 300 years a gigantic mystery religion cult ..., that has drafted itself on all the other things, Christianity, Judaism, science, the kind of modernist authority .... What religion ist that? It is ... in its more basic form ... gnosticism. It is the gnostic religion - that life and being is a prison that would special knowledge secrets mystic hold, (that) we can find a way, pass the trap of being, the prison of being into we've been thrown and entering to a promised land, where we can be as gods. Scientism is the modernist form of that. .... This goes back ..., I mean, there was a gigantic war about , a religious war in the 2nd century between the Valentinians and the Arians. So this isn’t new. Gnosticism goes back thousand of years. And it is about two kinds of broadest positions about how the world works.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„I have a question: Why do you pack this sort of new wave of gnosticism to 1831 ...?“ (Gonzalo Lira, 2022 ).

„Because that was when Hegel died and the Old and Young Hegelians became the two prominent political forces in German thougt; 1831 is, when Hegel died and the Old and Young Hegelians arose to the two competing most influencial lines of polical-philosphical fight. .... We can pack it to 1807, the publication of the Phenomenology of Spirit (original: Phänomenologie des Geistes). Or we can pack it the ... 1760s when Rousseau wrote the Social Contract. I think, Vico is a little too abstract to go back another half century .... It’s the influence of the kind of line that goes Rousseau-Hegel-Marx. I was using 1831, because that’s when Hegel died and the two movements definitely came into the being. Marx was a Young Hegelian under ... the direct Young Hegelian Ludwig Feuerbach. Feuerbach was a materialist who was incorporating materialism out of Hegel’s dialectic theology, and so he made it more materialistic. And Marx said, Feuerbach didn’t go far enough .... So, I pack the birth of what I call the dialectical faith of leftism at around the 1830s.
Note: Hermeticism is the modern term for an ancient religious-philosophical doctrine of revelation that had a strong influence, especially during the Renaissance. The name refers to the mythical figure of Hermes Trismegistos, the „threefold greatest Hermes“, who was regarded as the giver of knowledge. This is a syncretic fusion of the Greek god and messenger of the gods Hermes with Thoth, who is the god of wisdom and science in Egyptian mythology and religion, which originated in Egyptian Hellenism. However, in some texts Hermes does not appear as the author of revelation, but as its human recipient and herald. - HB.
What it was is the combination of gnosticism and hermeticism as this new hybrid religion out of two mystery religions that share some things in common. Rousseau was a gigantic gnostic, Hegel was a gigantic hermeticist - put the ideas together -, Marx ran with both of those vains in his own way and that has defined leftism since.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„My thinking is different. .... It’s not that what we are seeing came out of the intellectual framework, but rather what you are talking about is what pos hoc describes the evolution, but it’s not the origin of this evolution.“ (Gonzalo Lira, 2022 ).

„What did Hegel call his entire phenomenology? It’s not the title of the Phenomenology of the Spirit from 1807, it’s the second part, the foretitle is: System of Science in the Phenomenology of the Spirit - System of Science (System der Wissenschaft). And what did Marx call what he did? Wissenschaftlicher Sozialismus (Scientific Socialism). So here is the authority of science that has been corrupted by the scientism you’re describing. That they are like: Hey, guess what? This is alright. .... They are the gnostics. This is alright. LFG. And they put their hoax in it. And they become the true orbiters of the science, the true orbiters of the scientism. And they drive it. And it’s because we are living in a cold eschatological religion. It’s not Christianity, not Judaism, not Islam, not Buddhism, but rather this gnostic heresy that can attach to any of them, prefer any of them.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„It’s ... this gnostic heresy!“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„The problems of this evolution you are not incorrectly describing are being driven in a particular direction with particular pipe dreams, pipe goals that are ultimately extraordinary destructive. .... Marx .... Destruction is kind of the name of the game. Ruthless criticism of all that exists.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„Keynesianism is even worse, ... if you think about it carefully.“ (Gonzalo Lira, 2022 ).

„So this is, I think, the direction we’ve been following.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„You read him warning about the abuse of the power in this new communicative system we have and the they like: Hey, we can do that. .... And then you have ... Harari saying: Guess what we can do with computers? Humans are hackable animals. Let's have an algorithm to confuse them, so they never know what reality is. .... Maybe Marx is a decriptive, maybe not, maybe Hegel is a descriptive, but then what you have is activists picking up those tools later and puttg them to purpose.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„Utopianism is at the center of the project for the last 50 years. And when you look at ... the Club of Rome: That’s an utopian project. They gonna build a world that is perfectly sustainable. .... It’s to have an economy that is perfectly forecastable, perfectly controlable.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„This an ESG phenomenon, this is all a World Economic Forum phenomenon.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„Getting these people to fight with each other is hugely to our advantage. Making George Soros believe that the World Economic Forum is going to implement a gigantic program of social control that looks like China, which is what he does’nt want, is gonna make George Sorors screw with them, whereby he screws everybody .... More power to us, if that happens. We want them fighting with each other. ... They don’t have empathy. .... It’s relatively easy to get them to believe that the others, that a kind of collaboration ....“ (Gonzalo Lira interrupts here).“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

„These people are not omnipotent. Their plans are actually crackpot.“ (James Lindsay, 2022 ).

Either they will fail or make us the last men after the end of history, in which case these last men will have to become machine men or to die immediately.

I am not quite sure whether James Lindsay assesses the classification of the philosophers he mentions and their philosophies quite correctly, which is why I have informed myself about him and found that he is not a philosopher himself, but a mathematician: James Stephen Lindsay (born in Ogdensburg, New York, June 8, 1979). At the age of five, he moved to Maryville, Tennessee, later graduating from Maryville High School in 1997. Lindsay attended Tennessee Tech, where he obtained both his B.S. and M.S. in mathematics; he later earned his Ph.D. in mathematics from the University of Tennessee in 2010. His doctoral thesis is titled „Combinatorial Unification of Binomial-Like Arrays“, and his advisor was Carl G. Wagner. After completing his degree, Lindsay left academia and returned to his hometown, where he worked as a massage therapist. He is the founder of the website „New Discourses“ (**), which is owned by the Christian nationalist commentator Michael O’Fallon. In August 2022, Lindsay was permanently suspended from Twitter. His account was reinstated in November 2022 after Elon Musk’s acquisition of Twitter.

In the context of the above quotes, is it of any significance that the website „New Discourses“ (**), of which James Lindsay is the founder, is owned by the Christian nationalist commentator Michael O’Fallon? When searching the internet for information about Michael O’Fallon, I did not find an explicit reference to „Christian“. Has this word also become a swear word?

Maybe I should intensify the search.

I surfed the website „New Discourses“ (subtitle: „Pursuing the light of objective truth in subjective darkness“) and came across the page „Hegel, Wokeness, and the Dialectical Faith of Leftism“, where can be found a movie (**) and the following text:

„Is Critical Race Theory Marxist, as many insist, or is it not? What is the relationship between Marxism, neo-Marxism (Critical Theory), and Wokeness? All three criticize one another, and yet all three have a great deal obviously in common. Is there some common underlying thread between these clearly similar yet obviously different worldviews? The answer is yes, and by tracing back to one of the most influential speculative idealist philosophers of the early 19th century, namely George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, we can gain a great deal of insight into how these decidedly leftist movements—the Marxist Old Left, the neo-Marxist New Left, and the intersectional Woke Left—share at least one deeper philosophical architecture in common. From Hegel, the Left since his time has, wittingly and not, adopted several of the pillars of Hegelian philosophy, these including his statism, historicism, and, much more importantly, his dialectical approach and metaphysical worldview. In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, James Lindsay takes a long, deep dive into the ways that Hegel’s philosophy is at the root of the entire “Dialectical Left” since, naming the dialectic the “operating system” of all activist Leftism since the early 1800s.

In this episode, Lindsay takes considerable time explaining Hegel’s view of dialectical thought and then reveals in many examples, reaching up to the present day, how consistently the dialectic appears as the functional underpinning of Leftism ever since, at the latest, the 1830s. He makes the case that Leftism since Hegel thinks dialectically, moves dialectically, and applies dialectical thought not just to its targets but to everything, including itself and even its own dialectic. He then switches gears and explains how the dialectic is central to Hegel’s underlying Hermetic (or alchemical) worldview and explains his mystical metaphysics so that this long arc of Leftist activism can be understood as evolving denominations within a single religious faith. With this theoretical groundwork laid, he then tackles how Hegel’s historicism and statism arise as key features of his philosophy, with both of these characterizing activist Leftism up to the present day. Join him for his longest and most in-depth discussion yet, taking on how Hegel is a key progenitor of communism, liberationism, and ultimately Wokeness, how this philosophy must be understood so that it can be countered, and why it should be thought of in the same way that Hegel thought of it: as a religion in its own right, with its own notion of deity, metaphysical commitments, soteriology, and eschatology.“ **

However, it must be emphasized again and again that Hegel himself was not a leftist (left Hegelian), but the original Hegelian, namely Hegel.

Dreiecke

Bier

9018

Lorikeet wrote:

„The delusion that everything must be created from nothing, including morality, is an Abrahamic superstition.
The idea that everything can evolve from within existence, is incomprehensible to them....or unsatisfactory.
They need a creator ..., if not god then man must be the creator, because then it is correctable.“ **

Correctable, yes, because if it is correctable, then it is criticizable, and if it is criticizable, then it is capitalizable, and if it is capitalizable, then it can lead to power over the world.

9019

Adam GreenAdam Green
Adam GreenAdam Green

- 1:47:28 ff. -

Adam Green and Christopher Jon Bjerknes.

9020

Lorikeet wrote:

Überboyo wrote:

»The old fashioned view on the Fall of Rome was that it imploded due to mass migration.
So next time you are thinking about Rome remember „diversity is our strength“ has been field tested.
Generic tests in 2021 on Roman remains revealed that the Romans took in large amounts of slaves and labourers from the Middle East.
Several generations later the Roman cities were 50% made up of Middle Eastern DNA.
The colonisers were reverse colonised.
Every major mass migration in history led to new era and often disaster for many people:
- The Aryan movement into Europe and India.
- The Goths moving into Rome.
- The Bantus swooping across Africa.
- The Europeans moving to the New World.The category of „evil globalist“ doing this is idiotic as „globalisation“ has been taking place for 500 years - the Conquistadors were „globalists“.
There’s a strange historical analogy here:
The greedy conquering Romans taking in Slaves only to face a slave revolution in their own cities.
The greedy European conquered setting up supply chains and slave plantations only to find themselves being replaced in their own home by their old colonies.
Understanding and managing a phenomenon like Globalisation is very difficult - it’s almost like the Achilles heel of empires themselves.
A weird part of this is how Empires make “being tolerant” a cardinal good - the Roman Caracalla created the universal citizen in an attempt to unite all people in his sphere as Romans.
Yet, Immigration is not „moral“ on any level - there is nothing intrinsically good about it - it is merely a tool to supply an upper class with more labour.« **

The end phase of every Empire is degeneracy and mass migrations diluting local populations.
Success leads to its own downfall.“ **

And the philosopher who knew the most about this was the philosopher of history and culture Oswald A. G. Spengler.

By the way: At the time of Caracalla (ruled 211-217), Rome had actually already fallen. And Caracalla himself was not of pure Indo-European descent either. Trajan (ruled 98-117) was already of Non-Roman, but still Indo-European origin - he was Iberian. Under him, Rome reached its greatest expansion. When the greatest expansion is reached, everything inside is already broken, so it is only a matter of time before the empire collapses. And so it was in the case of the Roman Empire. The Germanic tribes (namely Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Vandals, Swebens, Gepids, Burgundians, Franks, Saxons, Angles and others) conquered it several times, and the city of Rome was also conquered several times by the Germanic tribes (namely Visigoths, Osgoths, Vandals), so that it can be said that the Germanic tribes made the empire and the city Indo-European again. Before this conquest more Non-Indo-Europeans than Indo-Europeans had migrated to the Roman Empire, especially to its eastern territories and even more especially to its capital Rome.

Lorikeet wrote:

„Wilhelm Röpke wrote:

»Of what avail is any amount of well-being, if at the same time, we steadily render the world more vulgar, uglier, noisier, and drearier and if we lose the moral and spiritual foundations of their existence? Man simply does not live by radio, automobiles, and refrigerators alone, but by the whole unpurchasable world beyond the market and turnover figures, the world of dignity, beauty, poetry, grace, chivalry, love, and friendship, the world of community, variety of life, freedom, and fullness of personality.« (Translation).

Abendland

**

Beautiful picture from the good old days.

9021

Lorikeet wrote:

„The lies began during the American Civil War ..., contradicting the constitution they held to be sacred ..., preteding it was all about slaves and humanism ..., when slavery had become obsolete because it was unnecessarily costly.“ **

Yes. Coal had proven to be much cheaper than the muscle power of slaves.

Lorikeet wrote:

„We are now in the midst of the leis of 'diversity' ..., when Americanism is all about uniformity.
Nations with a tenth or a hundredth of the US's population have political options ranging from extreme-right, fascism, to extreme left, Leninism....but not the states.
There political "diversity" is a presudo-diversity of a duality.
No great difference between Republican and Democrats, other than in matters of sex, taxes and guns ..., all of which can be summed up as consumer options.
In foreign policy the same uniformity, disrupted by Kennedy and recently by Trump - the latter was assassinated and the former is being demonized.
They fear him because he threatens American uniform foregn-policy, since the end of the second war.“ **

I mean, after the Second World War they didn't achieve anything, absolutely nothing, maybe the Korean War (1950-1953), but that wasn't really a victory for them either. It has become increasingly clear that the US government is pursuing a policy not for its people, but against its people and all the more for its super-rich, who basically could just as well live elsewhere as in the USA and they don't pay taxes anyway, as well as for Israel.

And because Europe has only been a political appendage of the USA since the end of the Second World War, the policy of the Europeans is moving in the same direction as that of the USA. Everything against their own people, but all the more for everyone else.

When cultures are old, i.e. have become civilizations, the power of money becomes more and more prevalent. In the end, there are only those rulers who use their money in such a way that their power over their competitors is extended as far as possible, so that all competitors can be defeated. Caesar didn't really care about the Romans - he would have fought his wars with another people, because he was only interested in money as a means to power, and for that he needed wars. This was also the case with Caesar's rivals and successors. Antony, for example, tried to turn the Orient into a new empire; he was also successful until the day he was defeated by Octavian, later known as Augustus. This was decided by money. If it had been done on his own in terms of political and, above all, military ability, Augustus would have lost. He was younger, less experienced than Antony. But because he had more money at his disposal and could therefore buy the best fighters (e.g. Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, Lucius Arruntius and many others), he won.

Lorikeet wrote:

„In all else diversity means consumer options.
Superficial diversity.
The retards believe traveling from LA to Chicago is a cultural shift ..., this is how they understand culture: style, accents, climate...
Diversity in consumer goods and services - hedonistic options.
So, they have two political options and over 90 gender options.
Anything that stands in the way of superficial diversity is anathema.
Choice over who or what to fuck, what to eat, what kind of clothes to wear, what kind of music to listen to, what pronouns to use, what gender to be ..., this is American 'diversity'.
Contraceptives and abortion clinics are supposed to prevent nature's unjust costs from inhibiting an individuals options.“ **

And (not to forget!) vaccinations, poisoned food and a poisoned environment anyway.

Lorikeet wrote:

„One year they want to be asexual, Buddhist monks, with an appetite for sushi and eastern classical music; the year after they might choose to be pansexual promiscuous sluts, listening to grunge and feeding on carbohydrates to maintain their energies on high alert.

No actual diversity is allowed.
No race, no sex, no ethnicity, no spirituality or culture that contradicts Americanism.
Superficial diversity for superficial minds, maintained in a constant state of adolescence.

All you need do is sample the Americanised minds of ILP:

Iamsomethingorother
KrapOnIt
Costurd
ScalpTer
Hamburglar
Careless
Itchy
Eekmandon't
shit-Stain
... and on and on.

Watch them follow me around from thread to thread, posting the same retorts ..., using the same infantile tactics.
They are the majority ..., and yet nothing they post has any value.
It's all uniform ..., despite their American individualism.
Predictable.
Always ad hom ..., never about the concepts.
Always shallow.
Always emotional ..., never rational.
Always subjective, not even trying to be objective.
The same teenage come-backs, and gotchas ..., over and over and over ..., trash-talkin on the schoolyard basketball court, adopting that Hollywood promoted Negro swagger, trying to pretend to be confident.“ **

Yes, that’s right. Hermann Schmitz would now say that this people belong to the typical representatives of the last phase of the Ironistic Age (**).

Without a predetermined path, such people are confronted with the offer of countless technical possibilities, which they take up if they engage with them. They are constellationistically networked with one another, but isolated and scattered for their own convenience. They have no backbone, no line to steer them through the scattered offer, as they are ironically prepared to turn away from everything and turn towards everything. Their ironism has slackened to the passivity of self-entanglement in leadership through networked offers with the apparent sovereignty to choose from them at will. **

And with all this inertia, passivity, apparent sovereignty, spinelessness, linelessness and being at the mercy of countless possibilities, they want to appear cool, but this is just an appearance, it only affects the surface, never the depth of their personality. So it can be considered certain that a cool appearance always means being absolutely uncool.

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Carleas wrote:

„For me:
- I'm an atheist, but I think religion is probably good for society.
- I'm pro-choice, but I think the vehemence of pro-life people is understandable and rational -- and compassionate -- given their beliefs.
- I'm an economic progressive, but I oppose the minimum wage, Keynesian economics, much regulation, corporate taxes, etc. etc.
- I'm a libertarian but I think we should have a large redistributive basic income.
- I'm a pacifist but I think kids should be taught how to fight.“ **

You contradict yourself on almost every one of your points here.

That’s why it’s probably pointless to go into every one of your points.

Therefore, only this much:

Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) is the largest, Marxism the second largest and Keynesianism the third largest contradiction in economic history to date, and yet the three prevailed and belong to the so-called „progress“, not only because history has progressed during this time. This three theories have little to do with reality. They are more utopian projects than economic theories. And most people misunderstand what „progress“ means. This word has also been using in the context of brainwashing, especially in left-wing circles since the 1830s/1840s (Hegel died in 1831, so that the Old Hegelians [Right Hegelians] and Young Hegelians [Left Hegelians] finally split; and Marx published „The Communist Manifesto“ in 1848, the year of revolutions in several countries of Europe).

Economic facts and economic theories

It can be concluded that Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), Marxism and Keynesianism agree less than 50% with reality. Of all economic theories, modern monetary theory has the least to do with reality, namely less than 20%.

When you say that you are „an economic progressive, but ... oppose the minimum wage, Keynesian economics, much regulation, corporate taxes, etc. etc.“ (**), then you are either not a „progressive“, because Keynesianism is still considered „progressive“, or you are not against Keynesianism at all, which is also clear from your fourth point: „I'm a libertarian but I think we should have a large redistributive basic income“. Basic income („preferably“ a digital one, right?) and Keynesian economic policy hardly differ. In both cases, the state or a similar institution (e.g. central bank) is called upon.

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It BECOMES physical force, yes, but it IS NOT already merely physical force.

That is why the Caesarians had to fight their way up first. They would not have achieved anything in Rome at that time if they had not become richer than those senators who did not want to change anything, because they were in power. Only when they were overtaken by the Caesarians in terms of money (and were already bribed by them) were they lost.

Only American(ist)s can come up with the idea that Caesarians were fascists, since Americans - apart from Sub-Saharan Africans - have no history of their own, thus no history that took place on the soil on which they live. And since most Americans are of European descent, they have been forbidden to relate to European history - so this path to history is also closed to them.

Anyone who believes that Caesarians were fascists has no idea of history. The Caesarians were of course not fascists. To become a fascist, you have to live in a time when pagan antiquity no longer exists. But it still existed at the time of the Caesarians. Mussolini's fascism referred to the fasces. The origin of the word „fascio“ is derived from the Latin word „fasces“, bundles of rods as symbols of power in the days of the Roman Empire, which the lictors carried before the highest Roman officials, the consuls, praetors and dictators. So: consuls, praetors and dictators (the dictator, however, was only intended for times of emergency). In other words, the fasces were symbols of the republic, not of a dictatorship as we understand it today.

In order to be a fascist, you must have already passed the time when the Roman tradition was abolished, because fascism, regardless of what else it was, was a re-establishment of Roman traditions. The emphasis is on the „re“ in „re-establishment“, it is an „again“. Mussolini tried to re-establishment Roman traditions - for certain reasons.

Those who wish to refer to the Caesarians must know that there were three different forms:

1.) those who tried to place themselves at the head during the Roman Republic, either without abolishing the Republic - this was the case with all Caesarians before Caesar.
2.) Caesar and his direct successors, especially Antony, who wanted to establish a monarchy.
3.) those who, after the death of Caesar and his successors, established the principate (Augustus) and became emperors.

They can all be called Caesarians, because they either wanted to put themselves at the head of the republic, thus not (!) destroy the republic (=> 1. and => 3. in the beginning ), or they wanted to become monarchs (=> 2. when Caesar and Antony had their greatest times), but failed.

Again: Caesarism has nothing to do with fascism.

If you want to gain power, you must accumulate money in order to have the means you need for power. So did all Caesarians. If Caesar, for example, had not exploited Gaul, he would not have won the war, but would have been broke, indebted to his shirt to the richest Romans of the time, especially to the Caesarian Crassus.

Believe me or not: It is true for the Americans too that wars cannot be waged in the long run without money, if the other side has more money to win wars. If you're broke, you won't be able to get loans; if you don't get any more loans, if you don't invest anymore, if you can't invest anymore, you run out of funds for the wars; if you run out of funds for the wars, you lose the wars if the other side still has the means to finance the wars.

Western technology makes it even clearer, because it can replace a much higher number of people than was possible before. You still need people, but without Western technology, these people don't need to go to war in the first place, because they have already lost before they arrive in the theater of war.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„American cringestians be like: "retvrn to tradition" but when they see the actual tradition (we don't even have to retvrn to bc we never lost them) in Europe (**):
Abrahamics relate with Indo-Euroepan spirituality (paganism) as devil worship....associating nature chaos/order with evil.

We see it on this very forum.
Whatever returns them to nature; whatever takes them out of their urbanite artificiality, is considered 'evil'.
They want 'nature' corrected ..., healed ..., adjusted to their postmodern ideals; their Abrahamic nihilistic convictions.“ **

They want the ultimately impossible.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„It's interesting that the only people that should not identify with a tribe are those of the European branch of the Indo-Euroepan family tree.

The Jews literally define themselves as ancestors of 12 Semitic tribes, with a 13th missing one.
Their Tribalism is elitist.
Blacks, unable to trace their lineage back to a specific sub-Saharan tribe, identify with the general 'African', incorporating them into a singular family tree.
Ironically, they can distinguish who is of their tribal family from a dark skinned southeast Asian ..., unlike zombified Americans, who have reduced race/ethnicity to skin pigmentation and sex/gender to sexual organs, to then dismiss them as superficial and insignificant.

Asians identify tribally. Chinese are Han, the Japanese, the Koreans.....Indians have converted their tribal identities into castes.
The only group that should not identify with their ancestral tribe, are Europeans.

Not only can they not identify with their collective biological identifiers, but they must dilute their ancestry by adopting Americanism.
American mixed individuals, having been diluted in America's 'meting pot' cauldron, cannot even identify as Europeans, but must reduce themselves to 'white' - which would include anyone with the same general skin pigmentation.
Only Europeans must adopt the American model and accept other races, cultures into their native homelands.....not Asians.....not Africans....only Europeans must lose all biological identifiers, including sex/gender and race/ethnicity.

Only Europeans must become like Careless and the other degenerates on ILP, zombies:
proverbial representations of individuals acting as herds.
For a more comprehensive analysis of the zombie proverbial archetype visit (**), because I am not going to waste my time on the braindead by rewriting everything for retards to predictably piss and shit on it, without even trying to understand it.

Suffice to say:
What are the defining traits of these movie zombies - having real life examples in nature?
Their loss of biological identities.
Zombies are all infected by the same virus - nihilism - carried into their midst by the same parasite - which I will not get into here.
They are symbolically stripped of their physical identifiers, acquiring a uniformity in physical appearance.
The flesh is literally rotting on their bones.
And though they have no central organization, acting as independent individuals - American - they nevertheless act as a collective, driven by shared hungers; the compulsion of the virus to infect the uninfected, i.e., messianism.
They have no leader, no shared ideals ..., only a shared hunger - hedonism - and a drive to infect anyone who remains uninfected.
A quintessential representation of Americanism: individuals thinking, behaving uniformly; their individuality a facade for an underlying ideological uniformity.
Zombies have no obvious sex, race, but they behave with a predictable uniformity, as they are all infected by the same virus - nihilistic ideology.

Individualisms, - divide and control - reduces them down to an ideology - stripped of biological identifiers, of ethnic/cultural identifiers - deconstructed down to a meme.
Anything that inhibits total indoctrination into this shared idea, is to be eliminated, including traditional families, religions, tribal identities etc.
Individuals that act in unison, despite feeling individualistic, selfish, egotistical etc.; individuals that can be easily manipulated and directed, having no alternate source of guidance, or sense of self - identity; individuals compelled by the same ambitions, the same standards, the same fabricated ideals.
Just watch the uniform thinking of the Americans on ILP; their uniform approach to what I am saying: their tactics.
Slaves that feel free ..., and yet many of them dismiss free-will as nonsensical, intuitively understating that their thinking and acting is entirely taken over by a virus that drives them to do and say what is contrary to their biological self-interests - 'self' reduced to an idea that can then be rejected as non-existing; individuals linguistically disconnected from reality, detached form their own ancestry, their own tribal past.
Zombies.“ **

It is no coincidence that at the same time that zombies exist as companies - those companies that are actually already „dead“, but are kept alive by financial support - there are also zombies as persons, because they too are actually already dead, but are kept alive by brainwashing and usually also by financial support.

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Wendell wrote:

„You're actually looking at someone playing Krampus, a character in the folklore of the European Alps, who, during Advent, punishes ill-behaved children with birch rods. His partner, Santa, accompanies him on December 5 to bring healthy food to well-behaved children.“ **

The tradition is ancient, twice as old as Christianity, which later mixed its contribution into this older tradition, just as Christianity always did when it tried to Christianize the older traditions of the still pagan (and not yet pagan again) Europeans. All Europeans had to endure that. There was not a single exception. But it took the Christians around 1000 years to Christianize all Europeans, thus also the last of them.

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The West is more isolated than ever before.

Nationen, die entweder die Ukraine bewaffnet oder Rußland mit Sanktionen belegt haben

9028

Maybe the picture (**) can be completed with the LBGTQX flag and the DF (Digital and Financial) flag, which is yet to be designed.

Alf wrote:

„The West is more isolated than ever before.

Nationen, die entweder die Ukraine bewaffnet oder Rußland mit Sanktionen belegt haben

** **

It is said that in the future, after the East, especially China, has been raised economically, it will also be a matter of raising the South economically, so that both - East and South - will be able to stand on an equal footing with the West.
But ...:
1.) Where is the North, if the North is not to consist of West and East?
2.) If the East and the South can catch up, it is not by an increase, as is falsely claimed, but by a decrease in the West by destroying the West in every possible way, and that is exactly what is happening.
And in the end, 99.9999% of all human beings will be equally poor, equally stupid and equally switched (synchronized) - like machines or as machines.

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The pagan religions are more future-oriented than the monotheistic religions. The main characteristic of the monotheistic religions is the reference to the text; they refer to ancient texts, which is particularly pronounced and strict in Judaism and Islam. And if a Messiah is to come in the future, it is because the text says so, and not because the future is important. The future is more important for pagan religions than for monotheistic religions. What the monotheistic religions do is read, interpret and hope that what is written in the text will come true in the future, but the future itself is not of interest, but the expectation of salvation, which could just as well have come in the past (as is believed in Christianity: through Jesus). Judaism in particular is about turning the word into action, i.e. what is written in the ancient text is to be realized. Everything is geared towards this. Faith thus becomes a strategy; everything is done to ensure that the Messiah will finally come to redeem the faithful. That makes the whole thing so dangerous. The other danger is that Judaism, as the most jealous, envious, revengeful, impractical and smallest of the monotheistic religions, lets the other two monotheistic religions work for it, because they are very much bigger and should be very much bigger, namely according to the hierarchy in reality: very few rule, very many obey. And in order for this to become a reality, the Jews had to become strategists, they had to and must interpret their „sacred“ text in the way that strategy dictates.

It is not the pagan religions, but the monotheistic religions that are backwards, regressive and related to the past, especially Judaism and Islam, because both of them adhere to their ancient texts, and Judaism on top of that tries to adapt the present and future to these ancient texts, no matter how.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„The shift will be accelerated as polar ice melts and norther trade routes open up to commercial traffic, circumventing the Atlantic and pacific where the US, and allies, dominate with their fleets.

The map perfectly depicts the American domain.....Anglo-sphere+ western Europe where the US took over after WWII.
Turkey is neither here nor there.

Japan and South Korea have yet to deal with the pressure of Americanism's LGBTQJEWMNOP+.
Right now the US is consolidating tis domain by accelerating the propaganda campaigns.
Hollywood, Disney, are losing money but they will not stop producing the same crap promoting the same degeneracy.
They fear European rebirth......white supremacists.....
Russia is the opposing force - a thorn in their side.

If Europe rediscovers its true culture and traditions, its over for the States....and perhaps the entire world order.

The campaign is to reduce European numbers = see Ukraine war...see commercial promoting degeneracy, feminism, anything that will impact European demographics.

But it is impacting whites in the states...the very foundation of tis power.
This is why Trump was elected....representing that small faction that sees the danger of continuing American foreign policies: perpetual war, Wokism/Liberalism meant to subvert cultures that resist Americanism.

The small faction, Trump represents, wants to consolidate power, and prepare the US for a multipolar world worder.

It's a matter of time.
Who will collapse first ..., Europe or the US?
Already they've practically destroyed Britain and France.
Without mass expulsions, and stringent immigration policies, they are doomed.“ **

David Rockefeller.
I don’t know who’s going to collapse first. France and the UK are already done with, unless something finally changes there. Yes. But since all governments rule against their peoples, it will probably be up to the peoples themselves whether and how something changes in their desired direction.

It is this „right major crisis“ that David Rockefeller once spoke of, which actually began in 2007/'08, because the world financial system has actually been "dead" since then, is a zombie, and from which it has been distracted ever since with more and more terrible scenarios - until the very moment when we accept everything, and the next thing we are supposed to accept is the cashless, because digital, namely the central bank digital money, also known as central bank digital currency (CBDC) - there will be many more to come.

I can also imagine that they will be prepared to make concessions, if we accept their demands, and one of these concessions could be the return migration of all migrants, so that Westerners can at least be better off demographically, and the permanent extreme crime can finally stop.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Vladimir Putin -
'Western financial system is becoming obsolete'“ **

It's interesting, but it's also strange. How does Putin know that the Western financial system is becoming obsolete? Does he mean that the cash money should be disposed of? He himself is in the process of abolishing cash money in his country. He was also at the WEF in the early 1990s. The financial system must be changed, but this does not only affect the Western financial system, but the [i]entire[/i] financial system.

All the chaos we've been experiencing since the financial crisis, especially since the financial system has come to know in January 2019 that it can't raise interest rates again or keep printing money forever, and that's why Covid 19 came about, is meant to distract from the fact that the world financial system can no longer be sustained.

But Putin was not and is not isolated from this.

I interpret what he says about the West as rhetoric (he was with the KGB, after all), but unlike the Soviet rulers at the time, who imitated the West, Putin no longer wants to have anything to do with the West and relies on Russia as an independent culture. From today's point of view, this is probably actually better for Russia and, by the way, it is only the first time that Russia is no longer imitating the West. That's why Putin wants to stand out from the West all the more clearly. Hence his constant mockery of the West.

 

NACH OBEN 1679) Herr Schütze, 23.12.2023, 00:00; Alf, 23.12.2023, 00:04; Great Again, 23.12.2023, 00:31, 00:40, 00:44, 00:57, 10:30, 10:37; Kultur, 23.12.2023, 10:44, 10:59 (9032-9041)

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Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831)Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831)
However, it must be emphasized again and again that Hegel himself was not a leftist (Left Hegelian), but the original Hegelian, namely Hegel.

James Lindsay is from the USA. The nation USA has no history. It is historyless. It is a fact that history is necessary for the formation of identity. If history is missing, identity formation is limited. Substitute identities are then formed, and that is exactly what has been happening in the USA from the very beginning. And that is also the reason why Lindsay cannot empathize with people with whom he should actually share an identity, because Lindsay is of European descent, but is not allowed to be. He simply ignores the fact that Hegel was NOT a leftist. If Hegel enabled the Left-Hegelians - and indeed he did, just as he enabled the Center-Hegelians and the Right-Hegelians - that does not mean that he himself belonged to them, and he did NOT belong to them, because he was not his own disciple, but just himself.

An example:
Mr H. invents the sport of football, i.e. the corresponding exercises in combination with motivation, as well as the corresponding rules. The main rule is: „The winner of the football match is the team that scores more goals than the opposing team“. - 50 years later, Mr M. turns Mr H.’s rules on their head. The main rule is now: „The winner of the football match is the team that scores fewer goals than the opposing team“.

Question: Is it Mr H.’s fault that his rules have been put on his head by Mr M.?
Answer: No.

Marx turned Hegel’s philosophy on its head. Is that Hegel’s fault? No. Of course it's not Hegel’s fault.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Please do not get me wrong, I have nothing against James Lindsay, I have just criticized some aspects. Like him, I am very strongly against any kind of „cultural revolution“.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

My criticism of James Lindsay is merely that he does not say clearly enough that Hegel was not a leftist and especially not a Marxist. But Marx was a leftist (Left-Hegelian). But that’s not Hegel’s fault. In addition, he was already dead at that time.

And Lindsay himself says that he fixes the birth of the left at the year 1831 (**|**), more precisely, after Hegel’s death: 14. November 1831. Lindsay just does not always say this clearly enough, which is important, because most people do not know much.

According to Lindsay, the current „regime“, as he calls it, is similar to Marxism, so one may get the impression that he means that the „regime“ is made up of Marxists, which may well be, but it doesn’t have to be. It may also be the case that the „regime“ has put itself in a situation from which it want to break out, but can’t, so it grasps at straws to postpone the negative consequences of its own failures, which only leads to them becoming even greater. The „regime“ postpones by having to link Marxism, the equally absurd Club of Rome (it predicted in 1972, among other things, that e.g. copper and aluminum would no longer exist on earth in the year 2000 and we would therefore become extinct) with all the diversionary maneuvers and divide-and-conquer games, because it has no other choice anymore.

The Marxists lie in order to enrich themselves. Their totalitarian ideology is the ideal tool for making as many people as possible equally poor, equally stupid, equally brainwashed and for gradually reducing the population to one person. It is not the allegedly disadvantaged who become richer and more powerful, but the very few who allegedly „represent“ the allegedly disadvantaged politically, legally, ecclesiastically, „open-society“-wise and otherwise. We know this from history: by far the most murdered people in world history were in China and the Soviet Union, who were only murdered because they had a very little bit more than the allegedly disadvantaged - 600 million people paid with their lives for this madness.

About 100 years ago, Oswald Spengler warned against this, calling the original „Weltrevolution“ („World Revolution“) the „Weiße Weltrevolution“ („White World Revolution“) and the subsequent „Farbige Weltrevolution“ („Colored World Revolution“), because he knew that classism and racism would relatively soon unite against the white race. In addition to these two massive movements, there is another massive one that Spengler was already familiar with: the women's movement. If we call these three movements WCF (white, colored, female) for short, then we have to supplement all the nonsense today with LGBTQIA... x... and Woke etc., only to notice at some point that there may be no one left to exploit.

Leftists can only exploit as long as they have time, because after a certain time all exploitable people are exploited or dead.

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Humanize wrote:

„Hegel, a leftist? Wow. Imagine actually thinking that.“ **

You have misunderstood something again.

Hegel was NOT a leftist. To say that he was neither a leftist nor a rightist is more true than to say that he was both a leftist and a rightist. As you can see from the statements quoted by Sleyor (**|**), Lindsay merely said in that said movie, that leftists, or more precisely Left Hegelians (Young Hegelians), are descended from Hegel, but did not make it clear enough that Hegel himself was of course not a Left Hegelian. Hegel was simply just Hegel.

Lindsay is just not in a position to properly account for this fact, because Lindsay is from the US, so he must be without historical identity.

In the following movie, Lindsay says that Hegel (1) cannot be classified as a leftist or (2) can be classified as both a leftist and a rightist:

- „I don’t want to characterize Hegel originally, philosophically as left-wing.“ (James Lindsay, 2023). -
- „Hegel can be taken in a left-wing direction or right-wing direction either way.“ (James Lindsay, 2023). -

But don't get me wrong, because - apart from some inconsistencies that I have already addressed and will address in more detail below - I don't have anything against Lindsay, quite the opposite, and that's why here are another two excerpts from a movie to offer:

- „Woke: A Culture War Against Europe.“ (James Lindsay at the European Parliament, 2023). -
- „Woke is Maoism with American characteristics.“ (James Lindsay at the European Parliament, 2023). -

James Lindsay

**

With American characteristics, Lorikeet, ... Americanism!

„Where Mao claimed to be employing “Marxism-Leninism with Chinese characteristics” in China, the “Woke” and environmental “Sustainability” movements we face in the present should be described as “Maoist Marxism with American Characteristics.” In this lecture from Dr. James Lindsay, the parallels between our experience today and the tools utilized in China under Mao will be made so clear that the unavoidable conclusion will be that we are living through nothing less than American Maoism.“ **

Lorikeet wrote:

„So, anytime you hear one of these cunts talking about 'diversity' and 'equality' know that it means diversity in the sense of consumer options, and that for these simpletons, culture means style, or an accent, or weather ....

They are, in fact, anti-diversity.
Anti real diversity.
Anti biodiversity.

Anti cultural diversity.
They don't want every culture to live autonomously, according to its own values, ideals, ehtics ..., they want Americanised cultural diversity ..., meaning culture reduced to a product someone buys and then recycles; shallow diversity; pretend diversity; superficial diversity where difference don't mean shit ..., like wearing an outfit.“ **

They want (most of them without realizing it) what was called in China under Mao the „Cultural Revolution“, during which at least 100 million human beings were killed. So again:

- „Woke is Maoism with American characteristics.“ (James Lindsay at the European Parliament, 2023). -

Sleyor Wellhuxwell wrote:

„However, it must be emphasized again and again that Hegel himself was not a leftist (left Hegelian), but the original Hegelian, namely Hegel.“ ** **

Yes.

Herr Schütze wrote:

„James Lindsay is from the USA. The nation USA has no history. It is historyless. It is a fact that history is necessary for the formation of identity. If history is missing, identity formation is limited. Substitute identities are then formed, and that is exactly what has been happening in the USA from the very beginning. And that is also the reason why Lindsay cannot empathize with people with whom he should actually share an identity, because Lindsay is of European descent, but is not allowed to be. He simply ignores the fact that Hegel was NOT a leftist. If Hegel enabled the Left-Hegelians - and indeed he did, just as he enabled the Center-Hegelians and the Right-Hegelians - that does not mean that he himself belonged to them, and he did NOT belong to them, because he was not his own disciple, but just himself.

An example:
Mr H. invents the sport of football, i.e. the corresponding exercises in combination with motivation, as well as the corresponding rules. The main rule is: „The winner of the football match is the team that scores more goals than the opposing team“. - 50 years later, Mr M. turns Mr H.’s rules upside down. The main rule is now: „The winner of the football match is the team that scores fewer goals than the opposing team“.

Question: Is it Mr H.’s fault that his rules have been turned upside down by Mr M.?
Answer: No.“ ** **

If you have bought bread rolls in a bakery and find at home that these rolls are filled with chewing gum, you will probably visit the bakery again soon to complain. If you find out that another customer standing next to you has put her chewing gum in the rolls for fun, you will probably suspect that something is wrong with the customer. But will you also suspect that there is something wrong with the boss of the bakery? Hardly.

It is not Hegel’s fault that Marx wanted to do and then did something with Hegel’s philosophy that Hegel never wanted and never did, nor supported, nor even knew anything about.

Herr Schütze wrote:

„Marx turned Hegel’s philosophy on its head. Is that Hegel’s fault? No. Of course it’s not Hegel’s fault.“ ** **

Herr Schütze wrote:

„My criticism of James Lindsay is merely that he does not say clearly enough that Hegel was not a leftist and especially not a Marxist. But Marx was a leftist (Left-Hegelian). But that’s not Hegel’s fault. In addition, he was already dead at that time.“ ** **

A similar criticism of James Lindsay has also been made by Gonzalo Lira (see his statements quoted by you, Sleyor [**|**]).

Herr Schütze wrote:

„And Lindsay himself says that he fixes the birth of the left at the year 1831 (**|**), more precisely, after Hegel’s death: 14. November 1831. Lindsay just does not always say this clearly enough, which is important, because most people do not know much.“ ** **

Lindsay also said that Marxism was the result of Rousseau’s Gnosticism and Hegel’s Hermeticism. This combination of systems based on cognition and knowledge is, according to Lindsay, as the so-called leftism, which is a religion for him (for me too, by the way), alone responsible for the whole misery we are dealing with, especially today, and therefore he can say that none of the religions recognized as religions have anything to do with it. I criticize that too, because I think that at least one of the religions recognized as religions has to do with it, a lot in fact. If non-religious systems, even then, if they are recognized as religious systems, are responsible for something, it does not follow that religious systems are not. Furthermore, an economic and also a natural reason must be added to the purely spiritual-scientific reason, because it is not enough to refer only to the spirit (for Marx, as is well known, it is even only a „superstructure“, which I consider to be completely wrong), because humans are economic beings too, and the reason for this also lies in nature (see decay/entropy, the fight against it, self-preservation, nutrition, reproduction). So at least four areas come into question: (1 and 2) two spiritual scientific (philosophical and religious/theological), (3) one (economics) that mediates between the spiritual scientific and natural scientific, (4) one natural scientific one. So there is no single reason, e.g. as a cause, but at least four reasons why we have come to this whole misery. Lindsay has taken some of these areas strongly into account, others weakly, too weakly.

Herr Schütze wrote:

„According to Lindsay, the current„regime“, as he calls it, is similar to Marxism, so one may get the impression that he means that the „regime“ is made up of Marxists, which may well be, but it doesn’t have to be. It may also be the case that the „regime“ has put itself in a situation from which it want to break out, but can’t, so it grasps at straws to postpone the negative consequences of its own failures, which only leads to them becoming even greater. The „regime“ postpones by having to link Marxism, the equally absurd Club of Rome (it predicted in 1972, among other things, that e.g. copper and aluminum would no longer exist on earth in the year 2000 and we would therefore become extinct) with all the diversionary maneuvers and divide-and-conquer games, because it has no other choice anymore.“ ** **

To me, what this „regime“ is doing is nothing more than a lashing out of despair at the fact that it itself has totally failed. It can only play for time. The question is not if, but when its end will come. Until then, it can continue to wreak havoc, yes, but time is not on its side, but on ours.

Sleyor Wellhuxwell wrote:

„They are „killing two birds with one stone“: one is the one justified by religious scripture (kill Esau/Edom!); the other is the one justified by economic and financial hardship, which is being deflected onto everything else, distracting from the real problems and stealing all the economic and financial resources and assets of the middle class, which is almost without exception Western, i.e. white..

They must therefore share them as much as possible („divide and conquer“): Divide (1.) nobles and commoners/„bourgeois“ (beginning: late 18th century), (2.) commoners „bourgeois“ and „proletarians“ (beginning: 19th century), (3.) men and women (beginning: 19th century), (4.) nationals and foreigners (beginning: 1960s), (5.) heterosexuals and homosexuals as well as other non-heterosexuals or transsexuals (beginning: 1960s), (6.) whites and non-whites (beginning: 1960s), and so on. I have only split six times here (in reality it is more than six splits) and if I always split six times exactly in two, i.e. halve, I get: 1/64. See: (1.) 1/2, (2.) 1/4, (3.) 1/8, (4.), 1/16 (5.), 1/32 (6.), 1/64.

If I apply this to 100% whites, I get: 1.5625%. If, for example, I have 1 billion whites on this planet and I divide them six times, then I get 15,625 whites on this planet.

In this way, I can very quickly, in a „progressive“ course and an exponential acceleration, push the number of whites from 1 billion to 15,625, and this pressure is all the stronger and faster the closer the present approaches.

Within a very short time, especially in the last phase, the one billion has become 15,625, which roughly corresponds to a small town with 15,625 white inhabitants. Out of a total of 8 billion humans 15,625 white humans!

Again, in percentage terms: 100% whites are reduced to 1.5625% whites. Applied to the current world population of 8 billion, this means that 12.5% whites are reduced to 0.0196% whites.

Can 0.0196% of humanity still be dangerous? .... .... Only if they are the most powerful.

All this can be achieved in a historically short time. And the process is ongoing. The one who wants to stop it must be very powerful and especially very courageous. That is why it is all the more important to convince the masses, and this can only be done through the mass media.“ ** **

Ever since Marxism came into the world, it has been using again and again to turn allegedly disadvantaged groups into allegedly „equal“ groups, i.e. to exploit those who are allegedly to blame for the plight of the allegedly disadvantaged groups.

Herr Schütze wrote:

„The Marxists lie in order to enrich themselves. Their totalitarian ideology is the ideal tool for making as many people as possible equally poor, equally stupid, equally brainwashed and for gradually reducing the population to one person. It is not the allegedly disadvantaged who become richer and more powerful, but the very few who allegedly „represent“ the allegedly disadvantaged politically, legally, ecclesiastically, „open-society“-wise and otherwise. We know this from history: by far the most murdered people in world history were in China and the Soviet Union, who were only murdered because they had a very little bit more than the allegedly disadvantaged - 600 million people paid with their lives for this madness.“ ** **

And the Neo-Marxists have come up with more and more allegedly disadvantaged people, and it is no longer the capitalists who are to blame, but every person who does not belong to at least one of these allegedly disadvantaged groups. From the labour movement to the queer movement: allegedly all exploited.

Herr Schütze wrote:

„About 100 years ago, Oswald Spengler warned against this, calling the original „Weltrevolution“ („World Revolution“) the „Weiße Weltrevolution“ („White World Revolution“) and the subsequent „Farbige Weltrevolution“) „Colored World Revolution“, because he knew that classism and racism would relatively soon unite against the white race. In addition to these two massive movements, there is another massive one that Spengler was already familiar with: the women's movement. If we call these three movements WCF (white, colored, female) for short, then we have to supplement all the nonsense today with LGBTQIA... x... and Woke etc., only to notice at some point that there may be no one left to exploit.“ ** **

So you are right with your calculation, Sleyor, because in purely mathematical terms this would mean that the number of those who are allegedly disadvantaged would ultimately tend towards infinity, and the number of those who can still be exploited would tend towards zero.

In other words:

Herr Schütze wrote:

„Leftists can only exploit as long as they have time, because after a certain time all exploitable people are exploited or dead.“ ** **

It is no coincidence that the order of the allegedly exploited, which the leftists (communists) allegedly represent and in reality only exploit, resembles the „Victim Hierarchy“ („New World Order Caste System [the Oppression Pyramid]“) that Lorikeet has presented here:

Lorikeet wrote:

„Victim Hierarchy:

Victim Hierarchy

**

According to this pyramid, whites are the greatest oppressors. But why doesn't this apply to trans whites as well? According to this pyramid, are they no longer considered white or what?

This pyramid shows exactly which sick fantasies it comes from. It turns the real situation upside down. This is exactly what Marx did with Hegel's philosophy. And Marxism asserts that every entrepreneur is a capitalist who exploits his workers, when in reality this entrepreneur enables his workers to improve themselves economically, possibly to become entrepreneurs themselves. Neo-Marxism (Frankfurt School, etc.) adds to this by claiming that every minority (except the whites, although they are also a minority) is oppressed by a allegedly white majority.

No wonder that all the possible conclusions that can be drawn from this are drawn, and only evil conclusions. And the evil motives are already being revealed publicly - with evil reasons and evil imperatives for them. This was already the case in 1912 (and probably much earlier):

Lorikeet wrote:

Israel Cohen, 1912

**

Or this from 1915:

Nahum Goldmann, 1915

And even more so at present:

Lorikeet wrote:

Nahum Rabinovich

**

"Forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White Woman must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black woman. Thus the White Race will diappear ... means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory ... and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a World of dark peoples."
~ Nahum Rabinovich, Canadian RACIST Rabbi - www. rense.com/general45/full.htm

Everything clear?

According to the „will“ of the most mentally ill people on this planet, the White Race has to disappear from it. They want to destroy us. Genocide!

Like I have been saying for at least three decades:

Two things play the main role for these envious, jealous, revengeful and greedy people: (1) our intelligence and (2) our wealth. In our history, the former led to inventions that the world had never even dreamed of before; the latter is a consequence of the former. From the point of view of the envious, jealous, vindictive and greedy people, the former must disappear because our intelligence was and is stronger than theirs and can therefore cause them problems, and the latter must disappear because they look greedily at our wealth and need the many trillions of dollars in value it has to compensate for their own stupid mistakes so that they do not lose their power.

Seethroughitall wrote:

„Adam Watches Psychotic Rabbis so you don't have to: Amalek (1)
"They are Commanded to Wipe out all the Descendants of Esav"
"Blood Libel .... They are allowed to hate all of us going back to their Origin Story of Jacob/Esau"
"Anyone that Opposes them ..., you are going against God"“ **

Adam Green and a menatlly ill one

Lorikeet wrote

„Adam Green wrote:

»How much evidence do we have to accumulate before you guys realize we’re right and trying to solve our problems?« **

Fear is a terrible counsel.“ **

True.

To Adam Green:

Which guys do you mean?

I mean, we need maybe even only 4% of the masses, but also some guys from the leadership, especially from the media, the military, the secret services, the politics, the judiciary etc..

Lorikeet wrote:

Island

It's kept away ..., along with Americanism and its messianic kind of diversity.“ **

Iceland’s evil is in jail. And the very small amount of evil that is still there will soon be in jail too.

Skál fyrir Íslandi! Skál fyrir öllum Íslendingum!
Cheers to Iceland! Cheers to all Icelanders!

Bier

A tip, dear Icelanders: Let no single African, no single West Asian, no single American (because of Americanism) on your island. And when they say that a part of your island belongs geologically to America, tell them that it is the other way around: America belongs to a part of Iceland, but Iceland renounces America, gladly even.

Lorikeet wrote:

„Once you adopt Americanism - by force - it's over ....
The guy who censors your speech in Ireland.
Pro Tip: he isn't Irish. **
Hmmmmm.
Without getting vulgar ..., I believe he's circumcised.
He has that ... look.“ **

Yes, and the compulsive smile that evokes the aftermath of circumcision can clearly be seen.

Lorikeet wrote:

Joe Biden, 1977

The most shameless liars make it to the top.
Those willing to do anything they are asked, proving their loyalty and 'value'....are rewarded.

This is Americanism....
Plotitics ...,using words to manipulate.
Marketing, using symbols/words to sell.“ **

When asked why in 1977 he said the exact opposite of what he has been saying since perhaps the 1990s or later, he would probably reply: „I don’t remember what I said back then. Besides, my chatter from yesterday doesn’t concern me anymore. I’m completely innocent. I’m a victim.“

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Lorikeet wrote:

**

The reverse conclusion is that conspiracy theorists are telling the real truth. They expose the propagandists' „truth“ for what it is: a conspiracy that is addicted to lies because it cannot bear the truth.

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Lorikeet wrote:

Europeans without Christianity and Christianity without Europeans

Careless will now challenge me by asking me if I know what the name of the buildings are, or who built them ..., as if that matters in the message being sent.“ **

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Lorikeet wrote:

Nationen, die Hams als Terrororganisation erkennen

**

So again:

Nationen, die entweder die Ukraine bewaffnet oder Rußland mit Sanktionen belegt haben

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Lorikeet wrote:

Winston Curchill - einmal die Wahrheit sprechend

**

Only very rarely did Churchill speak the truth. Here, for example, when greeting „his“ soldiers, he did.

Lorikeet wrote:

Curse

**

And the English army (and later especially the US army) fought for it just as bravely as their politicians (as puppets).

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Democracy was birthed and functions only in ethnically and culturally, homogenous systems.“ **

Absolutely right. But democracy is also a playground for forces that infiltrate it and then show what it has become: plutocracy. Democracy has the flaw that it also involves those in the decision-making process who come from areas that make decisions for completely different reasons and thus allow forces that destroy democracy to gain a foothold. This is not the case with a monarchy and an aristocracy, because both are and want to remain connected to both the land and the people. A democrat is elected for four years and then moves his residence to another country. A monarch or aristocrat will not do this so quickly because he regulates the continuation of his rule by blood (biological heritage) on the land to which he belongs. Admittedly, he too can and will become decadent at some point, but it takes much longer than with a democrat.

The Senate of the Roman Republic was an aristocracy that lasted for around half a millennium. The Roman Empire (including the Principate) also lasted for around half a millennium. The European ruling dynasties were even older: 1000 to 1700 years. Some of them are still „in office“ today, „in office“ note well, because since 1789 (France) and later, e.g. since 1917, 1918, 1945 and onwards (many other European countries), they have been either totally or relatively disempowered.

Lorikeet wrote:

„In the US with its superficial diversity, and cultivated intellectual uniformity, founded on the rejection of biological diversity, plutocracy is the rule, and democracy is its cover.“ **

Yes, it is what I said above. Plutocracy quickly triumphed over democracy in the USA - towards the end of the 19th century at the latest. But democracy and plutocracy are just two sides of the same coin anyway. Sooner or later, every democracy is defeated by plutocracy, but always in such a way that democracy is preserved on the surface and plutocracy takes care of the facts in the depths. Here the words „surface“ and „depth“ can be understood entirely in the sense of Chomsky's linguistic theory, which assumes „surface structures“ and „deep structures“ (cf.: Generative Transformation Grammar).

Democracy is always short-term, because it shows its true face relatively (historically) quickly: plutocracy; and in its final phase, democracy degenerates into ochlocracy (anarchy). We are currently experiencing this transition.

So if we compare monarchy, aristocracy and democracy, then it is noticeable that democracy is of enormously shorter duration than the other two - for the reasons mentioned.

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Under Putin, something is happening in Russia that has never happened there before: Putin is the first leader in Russia to break away from the previously all-accessible imitation of the West, and - again - with the help of the West. The West has weakened itself through its war in Ukraine. It has been weakening itself in this way ever since the US war in Vietnam.

How does Putin justify his approach?

1) Putin justifies his approach by blaming the West because, according to Putin, the West hates Russia. This justification is typical of today’s world, in which everyone allegedly hates everyone else (which of course is not true), but Putin can cite it for perfectly legitimate reasons.

2) Putin justifies his approach by assuming, indeed having to assume „Eurasianism“, because the link to the West has been lost due to Western arrogance towards Putin (see 1). He has to call his concept „Eurasianism“, because not only Europeans but also Asians live in his empire. He cannot base it on Christians alone, because Muslims and Buddhists and natural religious peoples (so-called pagans) also live in his empire. In addition, Christians are demographically declining. He can also only achieve economic advantages for his country, if he holds his empire together. If his empire were to collapse, the economic successes would also be lost. Russia is dependent on the export of oil and natural gas. That was also the reason why the West, under the leadership of the United States, wanted to weaken Russia, so that it would collapse, at least economically.

3) Putin justifies his approach by calling „Eurasianism“ „Russian culture“, because he has to take into account the demographic situation in Russia: as I said, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and natural religious peoples are living there (see 2), apart from the many atheists - whereby the Christians and atheists are drastically decreasing rapidly. To speak of a „Russian culture“ is daring because it does not correspond to the facts, and testifies to good rhetoric on the part of Putin. Putin has to speak like this because he is under pressure and there is only one option left for him. Maybe he will succeed. If so, then the "ninth culture" announced by Oswald Spengler in his magnum opus would still become a reality.

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Lorikeet wrote:

„Abraham will be overcome when men overcome their desire to use words to help them cope with an indifferent and often unjust world.
As this is not possible as long as reproduction remains unregulated by natural selection, we will have to learn to endure the relabeling of the same self-reserving, comforting lies, in increasingly obscure linguistic repackaging.

We have a few example on ILP.“ **

A few? I would say: 80%.

But 80% only means a mass, and a mass can be directed in a different direction at any time. It perhaps only takes a single-digit percentage to take back power. There is this percentage, even more than that. These relatively few people are ready to go. And they will do it.

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Lorikeet wrote:

We have a lot of supporters throughout the world – Putin.
It was most likely the US who blew up Nord Stream – Putin.“ **

Lorikeet wrote:

Putin's famous historic Munich speech in 2007. This is a PHENOMINAL speech. EVERYONE needs to hear it! What prophecies have come true?

NATO’s eastward expansion foments tension.
Putin’s Munich speech: "NATO expansion does not have any relation with the modernization of the Alliance itself, or with ensuring security in Europe. On the contrary, it represents a serious provocation that reduces the level of mutual trust."

Democracy by diktat won’t work
Putin stressed in his Munch speech: "[The observance of human rights] is an important task. We support this. But this does not mean interfering in the internal affairs of other countries, and especially not imposing a regime that determines how these states should live and develop. It is obvious that such interference does not promote the development of democratic states at all. On the contrary, it makes them dependent and, as a consequence, politically and economically unstable."

An arms race will follow
Putin stated in his historic Munich speech: "No one can feel that international law is like a stone wall that will protect them. Of course, such a policy stimulates an arms race .... The potential danger of the destabilization of international relations is connected with obvious stagnation in the disarmament issue."

Unresolved Iranian nuclear problem
Putin noted in his historic Munich speech: "If the international community does not find a reasonable solution for resolving this conflict of interests, the world will continue to suffer similar, destabilizing crises .... We are going to constantly fight against the threat of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction."

Long-term contracts and energy security
Putin stated in his Munich speech: "And now about whether our government cabinet is able to operate responsibly in resolving issues linked to energy deliveries and ensuring energy security. Of course, it can! Moreover, all that we have done and are doing is designed to achieve only one goal, namely to transfer our relations with consumers and countries that transport our energy to market-based, transparent principles and long-term contracts."

Unipolar world’s fall
Putin said in his Munich speech: "I consider that the unipolar model is not only unacceptable but also impossible in today’s world. The model itself is flawed because at its basis there is and can be no moral foundations for modern civilization. There is no reason to doubt that the economic potential of the new centers of global economic growth will inevitably be converted into political influence and will strengthen multipolarity."

From friends to foes
Putin said in his Munich speech: "He (U.S. President George W. Bush) says, 'I proceed from the fact that Russia and the USA will never be opponents and enemies again. I agree with him."

Another world
Putin said in his Munich speech: "Russia is a country with a history that spans more than a thousand years and has practically always used the privilege to carry out an independent foreign policy."

NATO’s expansion, a unipolar world, disarmament problems, the erosion of the OSCE as an institution, the Iranian nuclear problem and Europe’s energy security - TASS has summarized Putin’s warnings and prophecies from his Munich speech that have come true simply because nobody turned an attentive ear to them.“ **

Nevertheless, one should not approve of the developments in Russia, as there are already experiments with digital central bank money in Russia, for example.

Lorikeet wrote:

How to stop a Cultural Revolution | James Lindsay.

--->Gnosticism---->Judaism---->Christianity/Islam----->Marxism----->Modernism---->Americanism---->Postmodernism/Neo-Marxism----->Woke

Evolution of a meme.“ **

Good. Matching: Woke: A Culture War against Europe | James Lindsay at the European Parliament. - .... - The Dialectical Faith of Leftism | James Lindsay.

And: Roundtable #9: James Lindsay.

In my opinion, all this is a sign that the global powers have big problems. As James Lindsay also said (see: Roundtable #9), they are already at odds with each other.

How did Maoism (especially its Cultural Revolution!) end?

If Mao had been honest and sane, would he not have had to admit at the end of his madness at the latest that all his policies were completely wrong (= left-wing)?

- „Woke is Maoism with American characteristics.“ (James Lindsay at the European Parliament, 2023). -

James Lindsay

**

And: Unlimited money for Ukraine, meanwhile this is Philadelphia.

The written text in the movie is cynical in a typically Americanistic way. Americanists do not even notice this cynicism. They are brainwashed with the brainwashing agent called Americanism.

It is simply not true that you can only be in solidarity with drug addicts if you only ever think positively about them. On the contrary: if you call them Zombies, the effect on them is often more positive in terms of improving their health than if you just pretend to think „highly“ of them.

You may remember your school days. Which was more effective: the disregard due to cynicism or the punishment due to attention?

Drug addicts are less likely to kick their habit if they are met with hypocrisy, i.e. cynicism. They have to be confronted with reality. That works better.

 

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