1391) Great Again, 20.01.2021, 15:47, 16:11, 16:49, 17:54, 19:20, 19:23; Kathrina, 20.01.2021, 19:29; Great Again, 20.01.2021, 19:44; Kathrina, 20.01.2021, 20:28; Great Again, 20.01.2021, 20:34, 20:48, 21:17 (7708-7719)

Hello, I am Great Again.

I want you to know that the USA has become a small colony.

Have a nice time.

I am here in order to tell you that China is great again and the USSA is its colony.

The other reasons why I am here are philosophical reasons.

Have a nice day.

* Happy birthday to Joker!

When this day began, I saw that the number of your age jumped from 33 to 34.

So, happy birthday, Joker.

All the best.

In the past, parts of China were colonies of the Europeans; in the future, it will be the other way around.

James S. Saint wrote:

„Is 1 = 0.999... ? Really?“ **

No. It isn't.

1 is always one, and 0.999... is always 0.999....

Such an equation serves only mathematical requirements.

If God didn't exist, I would invent one right now. Life is better when there is a God.

When dates and numbers are a prominent leading role in people's lives, then science is involved as well, and where science is involved, there is philosophy involded as well.

Hello.

Gloominary wrote:

„Canadian politics are boring as fuck, I've always been more interested in American politics. America doesn't give a fuck, they march to their own drummer, and I respect them for that. That being said, America is less interesting with Trump gone ....“ **

But what if Trump was just used in order to put Biden in office now?

Gloominary wrote:

„The rise of rightwing populism, Trump, Farage, Bolsonaro, Salvini and so on, is being used by the neofeudalists to ultimately hasten our woke chinafication. That's what the fake covid and fake outrage mods are for, to fully bring in totalitranshumanism.“ **

This is what I meant. You just said it in other words. Biden is only the more effective puppet of the globalists. Trump and others have only been their helpers - voluntarily or involuntarily.

Obsrvr 524 wrote:

„Trusting anything is not going to be possible - your news, your foods, water, weather, associates, vaccines, barristers, doctors, accountants, priests, and certainly never your politicians and governments (merely puppets of the authoritarian Globalists) - 100s of millions to die at the whim of AI.“ **

You mean: „Cocid-19“ caused by IA.

He (**) can't even speak properly because he's already too senile.

What and how does he want to communicate to other heads of state?

This is so embarrassing.

And while you are having sex, you should also wash your hands - constantly.

That's the new kind of puritanism.

Gratulations. But wait: Don't forget to wash your hands before every kind of gratulation.

1392) Kathrina, 21.01.2021, 03:26; Great Again, 21.01.2021, 15:09, 17:02, 18:12, 18:53, 19:42, 22:48 (7720-7726)

Phoneutria wrote:

„People you miss.“ **

Arminius, James S. Saint, Alf, Moreno.

Urwrong wrote:

„Obsrvr 524 wrote:

»Trusting anything is not going to be possible - your news, your foods, water, weather, associates, vaccines, barristers, doctors, accountants, priests, and certainly never your politicians and governments (merely puppets of the authoritarian Globalists) - 100s of millions to die at the whim of AI.

It might take a while to gain a new hobby that doesn't remind me of how sick the world has become due to the death of Liberty. But I'll find a way - a game to play - the gloom at bay - and pray the spirit to stay. Really not much else to say (maybe I'll take up Welsh monorhyming).

Truly truly - ›Bye bye Miss American pie‹.« **

Truth and information will certainly become much more difficult to come by, and gauge what is accurate and relevant, within the sea of disinformation.

However, as Philosophers, what is more alluring than a good challenge, to disseminate even more powerful and difficult to disassemble truths?

There is hope yet, always is, even in previous Dark Ages historically.

What must happen is that the Conservative-Right within the US must move off the platforms now dominated by the Communist »Liberal«Left.

Those who used to call themselves »Liberals« are mostly the new Communist party. We see this throughout ILP, this forum here. They must be fought on all levels.

They are witling away at the First Amendment and Bill of Rights. All Americans must come to its defense, or lose it forever. It's that simple. This is not a joke.“ **

It is certainly right that the Conservative-Right within the US must move off the platforms now dominated by the Communist „Liberal“ Left. But then, the Conservative-Right must hurry! Maybe this political position will be totally forbidden soon! Actually, there has been only one political party in the US. And this party forbids any opposition.

Urwrong wrote:

„Of course Trump was corrupt, like the vast majority of politicians. Nonetheless, what I think we saw with him was a bit of a resurgence of paleoconservative, WASP values (constitutional, representative democracy, free markets, conservative values, isolationism and nationalism) in the republican party, as opposed to neoconservative, Jewish values (unconstitutional, unrepresentative democracy, corporatism, progressive values, imperialism and globalism, as well as the unconstitutional wars on, or rather for drugs and terror), altho he was still very much a Zionist. With Trump gone, is this the end of neoplaeoconservatism, if you will, or only the beginning?“ **

George W. Bush said he was proud to defend WASP values. Perhaps he was lying.

Zero Sum wrote:

„Phoneutria wrote:

»If you can't pass your values over to your children, despite state/society interference, you've failed as a parent.« **

Or, the state apparatus has surpassed the influence of parents in domination.“ **

That's it. Yes. And the state apparatus has made itself dependent on money and thus consists only of functionaries of the real rulers.

The small shed on the right looks very Russian to me. Where are they? In the garden of the Central Committee of the Supreme Soviet?

Dan~ wrote:

„Pain is ok. But when there is too much, it overloads and screws over the psyche. Truth is what propels life into a good, realistic future. Without truth, everything is rendered powerless. Truth is a form of power, too. Without truth, you could not come to a conclusion or even make a reply to my post.“ **

Yes, pain is ok, but: Would you please tell the other mods to unlock my posts?

Thank you very much, Dan~.

My PM function doesn't work.

Topic: Future of the USA.

What will the future of the USA look like?

I don't know any Russian word, but the DeepL-Translator has translated „Positive Peter“ into »« (?). Peter Kropotkin () was (tested) positive. Wasn't he?

1393) Great Again, 22.01.2021, 10:46; Kathrina, 22.01.2021, 13:35, 14:41, 15:53; Great Again, 22.01.2021, 17:07, 17:28, 17:57, 18:32, 19:27; Kathrina, 22.01.2021, 21:25 (7727-7736)

A „New Age fag who loves everyone“ (**)?

Unbelievable (*shakes head*).

Music is the best. ** **

Let's rock, people!

UFO (Phil Mogg, Mick Bolton, Andy Parker, Pete Way), Prince Kajuku, 1971.
UFO (Phil Mogg, Michael Schenker, Andy Parker, Pete Way), Rock Bottom, 1974.

Put away the masks and dance!

Start hopping!

Phoneutria wrote:

„If you're bored, you're boring.“ **

Yes. And therefore: ** **

China has become great again. The United States are on their way to a colony again. That's not good, but best, as you are saying.

The United States have to get to the bottom before they can achieve what you want them to achieve.

There is no other way in sight.

Now I can. At first the edit function didn't work; so I gave up. Now that function and I are okay. Thank you, Obsrvr.

Obsrvr wrote:

„And shouldn't you put a time limit on the OP question? - »during the next 4 years - 10 years - 100 years«?“ **

I decided otherwise. But your idea is still good. However, the topic will perhaps have been becoming interesting again in 100 years.

Obsrvr wrote:

„And The criminal President Biden had stated that by 2040 the USA is going to be decimated and is doing all he can to ensure that happens. The question is whether he can accomplish his goal. With the help of the Globalists it is very likely to happen - just a matter of how soon.“ **

I am afraid that you are right about that.

Obviously you mean your own conspiracy theory. Because there is no other one here.

Biden did use these quoted and other racist statements. Fact.

You are welcome to read up on this before you go on with accusing others of your own conspiracy theory again.

Also, you may be warned, because we want to talk about the future of the USA and not about your conspiracy theory.

Do not derail this thread.

Okay?

Promethean wrote:

„Frank Zappa, »Music is the Best«.“

Wake up! That song was already part of my opening post (**|**)!

Kathrina wrote:

„Music is great. But is music the best?

Frank Zappa said:

»Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is the Best.«

Do you agree?“ ** **

1394) Kathrina, 23.01.2021, 10:32, 11:08, 11:23; Great Again, 23.01.2021, 12:00; Kathrina, 23.01.2021, 10:32, 18:08, 18:23; Great Again, 23.01.2021, 18:59; Kathrina, 23.01.2021, 19:29, 21:57; Otto, 23.01.2021, 23:23 (7737-7746)

After four years of Trump presidency and an age of this thread of almost four years as well, it can be said that Trump has not been dangerous at all. Now there is a new US president, and I consider him much more dangerous than Trump ever could have been.

So the title of a next thread could be „How dangerous is Joe Biden?“.

Topic: Is Joe Biden Dangerous?

Please write what you think about Biden as the new president of the United States of America.

Give reasons why you think Biden is dangerous or not dangerous.

Don't write what your subjective problems are; just write what you objectively think about Biden. So quite a few ILP members are already excluded from this thread - unfortunately. Too bad.

Here it comes: ** **

All new fascists say: „We are antifascists“.

Gloominary wrote:

„Great Again wrote:

»George W. Bush said he was proud to defend WASP values. Perhaps he was lying.« ** **

W was a leftwing fascist, that's what neoconservatism is, they pay lip service to conservatism. Paleoconservatives are real conservatives. Trump's platform had some paleoconservative features, and that's why neocons and liberals want to crush him.“ **

So you are saying that George W. Bush was like the ANTIFA. Okay.

Obsrvr wrote:

„Kathrina wrote:

«Please write what you think about Biden as the new president of the United States of America.

Give reasons why you think Biden is dangerous or not dangerous.

Don't write what your subjective problems are; just write what you objectively think about Biden. So quite a few ILP members are already excluded from this thread - unfortunately. Too bad.“ ** **

Let's think about this -

There is a person with deeply embedded cancer in the brain and all major organs scheduled to die very shortly. A doctor identifies the illness and mitigates, partially reviving the life and hope. Then Biden comes along as a bullet to the brain. The body twitches for a while partially scratching off the skin that was preventing further disease. The heart, not being certain what is going on, still thinking there might be hope pumps even more blood to that brain. But the blood doesn't reach the brain rather squirts out into the dirt as infections rot the body even faster.

So the question - »is/was the bullet dangerous?«“ **

If we were to investigate causes, we would have to ask: Who invented bullets? To stay in the picture: Who „invented“ Biden?

@ Arminius.

You did a good job on this topic (**|**), Arminius. Now that it's been almost seven years since you opened this thread, and meanwhile we are in a corona hysteria since 2020, which also has to do with AI, it would be very good and important if you would write here again.

I would say that the probability that all humans will be replaced by machines has increased, just as you predicted here seven years ago.

The word „populism“ is also subject to censorship. If the dictators and their media were honest, they would not say that they are against populism, but against democracy. Democracies in particular are dependent on the „populus“, the people. But the dictators and their media make a mockery of it. Populism and democracy belong together. Anyone who is against populism is against democracy. The dictators and their media want to abolish democracy, and to make it easier to do so, they call democracy „populism“.

NEWSPEAK.

The future of the USA will be very bad. The only consolation is that the future of other nations will not be much better. But, to be honest, that is no consolation at all, but something that makes everything even more hopeless.

Obsrvr wrote:

„Kathrina wrote:

»If we were to investigate causes, we would have to ask: Who invented bullets? To stay in the picture: Who ›invented‹ Biden?« ** **

More importantly who pulled the trigger using such hollow point ammunition and who manufactured the gun? And who injected the virus that instigated the cancer in the first place?“ **

But Biden , who is the bullet in your example, is the topic of this thread. So the topic is the bullet or, in general, are the bullets.

If Biden is so sleepy, so old: Why ist he the POTUS? Why is he in office and not at home or in an old people's home?

1395) Otto, 24.01.2021, 00:03; Sleyor Wellhuxwell, 24.01.2021, 15:31, 20:50, 20:59; Great Again, 24.01.2021, 23:59 (7747-7751)

If it is a done deal and Biden is soon to be replaced because of his senility, then he may not even know he is president and that makes him even more dangerous.

The future of the USA is going to be a mix of waht Wells, Huxley, Orwell have described.

The US Americans will not get rid of the evil spirits they called.

Your (**) brain has already been washed by Big Brother.

Who? **

About 250 years.
400-500 years.
100 years.
1250-1500 years.

Sculptor wrote:

„Fake memes“ **

Fake memes? You don't know much about the facts.

@ Gloominary. **

In March 2020, the Federal Reserve chose BlackRock to manage two corporate bond-buying programs in response to the coronavirus pandemic, the $500 billion Primary Market Corporate Credit Facility (PMCCF) and the Secondary Market Corporate Credit Facility (SMCCF), as well as purchase by the Federal Reserve System of commercial mortgage-backed securities (CMBS) guaranteed by Government National Mortgage Association, Federal National Mortgage Association, or Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

In August 2020, Black Rock received approval from the China Securities Regulatory Commission to set up a mutual fund business in the country. This makes BlackRock the first global asset manager to get consent from China to start operations.

1396) Otto, 25.01.2021, 19:23; Kathrina, 25.01.2021, 19:37; Great Again, 25.01.2021, 20:09, 20:54 (7452-7755)

Topic: Existence and Life. Instance: Home and Housing (Dwelling).

Under what conditions do you exist, live, especially where your home is, where you live?

What has your existence been like?
How and where do you live, reside, dwell?

How should your existence be like?
How and where do you want to live, reside, dwell?

This thread (**|**) is not so much about the question whether „humanity will be spread out among vastly more star systems in the universe“ (**), but mainly about the question whether all (all!) humans will be replaced by machines and how this will happen. Keywords: machines in the conventional sense, machines in the sense of artificial intelligence (AI), cyborgs, androids.

It is more topical than ever, even more topical than in 2014 (April 3), when Arminius opened this thread (**|**).

The USA, as far as they can be understood as the political representation of the people of the USA, actually died on 23.12.1913, when the politicians finally left the fate of the USA to the high finance (foundation of the FED on 23.12.1913).

Zero Sum wrote:

„“ **

Ah. The infamous Mr. Bitcoin, also known as Mr. Hyperinflation, should be my signature!

1397) Sleyor Wellhuxwell, 26.01.2021, 00:19 (7756)

Topic: Have we ever been free? If so: Can we get our freedom back?

By „freedom“ I mean first and foremost the freedom of thought and speech. And because every kind of communication is language, there is no other kind of freedom left. - So much for the definition.

If we have to wear masks, but don't want to wear masks at all, then we are restricted in our freedom. If we need to be vaccinated, but do not want to be vaccinated, then we are restricted in our freedom. If we are not allowed to say so, then we are restricted in our freedom. And if we are not allowed to think that either, then we are restricted in our freedom.

In other words, our freedom has been taken away from us. How can we get it back?

Or have we never been free?

1398) Kathrina, 27.01.2021, 00:12; Great Again, 27.01.2021, 00:57, 00:59, 01:11; Kathrina, 27.01.2021, 15:48, 15:56, 16:28; Great Again, 27.01.2021, 18:12, 18:21, 18:28; Otto, 27.01.2021, 19:41; Kathrina, 27.01.2021, 21:12, 22:20 (7757-7769)

There is an important question: Will people manage to survive? Because if it is possible to replace humans completely with machines, then it is also possible that all humans will be superfluous and probably even disappear.
Even then, when humans will have become cyborgs, they will no longer be pure humans, but hybrid beings. At least that's how I judge it.

If it is possible to make a cat out of a dog, then the result will be neither dog nor cat, but a hybrid being.

The question of whether „humanity will be spread out among vastly more star systems in the universe“ (**) is a side question, although an intersting one as well. First of all we have to ask ourselves whether pure humans or cyborgs or machines „will be spread out among vastly more star systems in the universe“. At present, only machines in the area of our solar system and perhaps a little further have spread (see space probes).

Science will never „overcome the death of the gods“ (**), unless science will overcome science, thus will „die“ itself. So, „such expansive progress, utilyzing technology, is“ not „ unavoidable“ (**), but the end of either the machines or the humans is unavoidable, because the existence of both is in the long run impossible: either the machines will disappear, so that humans will forget them and therefore survive, or the humans will disappear, so that the machines will continue to exist either with the mixed beings or without them, but not with the human. There has been war between humans and machines since the beginning. This war is the war of humans against the nature. The weapons are of cultural, especially technological, anti-natural kind on the human side and the constants or forces on the natural side (see: gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear force and their constants). Humans won't win this war. They'll change to cyborgs or die out, unless they'll stop their war against the nature.

Also, because you brought up the gods: the humans could (re)discover their new (old) gods in nature, worship them and establish a religion, so that the war against nature can be slowed down again and again.

Zero Sum wrote:

„Of course Joe Biden picked Rachel Levine [trannie] as an assistant for secretary of health, naturally.“ **

Of course! Of health! Naturally!

Clear! Sure! Aren't trannies trendies?

Rachel in action (payed by taxpayers):

Shemale Ann Mary (obviously not payed by taxpayers):

This music from India (**) has very many similarities with the music from countries of Islam or even Orthodox Christianity.

Huhuhuhu!

Zinnat wrote:

„The general impression about covid here is that this is caused by China, either intentionally or unintentionally. But, we have seen the worst of it because general public listened to right people and more or less followed their advices too.

As far as Bill Gates is concerned, indians think very highly of him. Whenever he visits India, many top beurocrates and politicians meet him.“ **

The „indians think very highly of him“, and „whenever he visits india, many top beurocrates and politicians meet him“. Okay. But even „many top beurocrates and politicians“ are only a few Indians. So, what do the other Indians (for instance: the majority of the Indians) think of him?

There is also the possibility that the control of the machines will be lost. That means the time of the takeover of the power by the machines.

Not that I wish for this takeover, but this is how it could happen.

Zero Sum wrote:

„At this point (**) it's just too easy making a parody of the entire United States, not very difficult at all, really, this shit just writes itself.“ **

That is one of the reasons why I opened the thread „Is Biden Dangerous?“ ** **

Do you (**) think that religion is the one that will end the madness with the machines? Or what?

Kathrina wrote:

„The humans could (re)discover their new (old) gods in nature, worship them and establish a religion, so that the war against nature can be slowed down again and again.“ ** **

You could mean this:

Is that what you meant?

I live under very good conditions, at least as far as the home and the house are concerned. My existence could not be under better conditions. AND: I am not rich, but I am not poor either.

That could be true.

Would you like to own one of the following castles?

How do you (**) know that I meant the picture (**)? My point is whether Biden is dangerous. And if people think he is dangerous, they have their reasons.

Fakes were also posted about Trump when he became president. At that time, did you also tell everyone who saw a picture of Trump: „You would do better to recognize a fake meme“ (**)? I think you are the one who does not recognize fakes (involving Trump).

I opened a thread at the time with the question, „Is Donald Trump Dangerous?“ (**|**). And I opened a thread a few days ago asking: „Is Joe Biden Dangerous?“ (**|**). You have a strange sense of equality (equal rights). Are you that dumb?

Thanks. And you clearly said this:

Zero Sum wrote:

„At this point it's just too easy making a parody of the entire United States, not very difficult at all, really, this shit just writes itself.“ **

Biden is merely his own parody.

But it is nevertheless dangerous what he says (**), especially when there are so many stupid people who idolize him, as you can see very well on this web forum.

The doofuses have their own God, and he is very strong at the moment.

If your dog thinks he/she/it would rather be a cat, and a transgender as a cat, then that's damn well the right of that ex-dog, ex-cat or ex-whatever to become an absoluelty different whatever and transgender! The god of the doofuses has spoken!

1399) Great Again, 28.01.2021, 00:31, 01:12, 01:52, 01:59, 16:01, 16:24, 17:07, 18:02, 18:10, 18:34, 18:46; Otto, 28.01.2021, 22:12, 22:59; Sleyor Wellhuxwell, 28.01.2021, 23:25 (7770-7783)

Look at my avatar.

Could that map show a solution of the Ex-USA for you?

China in the northwest, Silicon directly below, Mexico in the west and southwest, Blackland in the south, Puerto Rico in the southwest, BlackRock-Land in the west and northwest - all with access to the sea. And Whiteland small enough in the center of the north (at the border with Canada) - without access to the sea.

Would that be a solution for you?

Or is your only solution the Concentration Camp?

Just for a more precise understanding: I meant the equation „1 = 0.999...“. Such an equation serves only mathematical requirements.

So, it is useless to philosophize about any other reason for that equation. The infinitesimal calculus was invented by Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. He published it in 1684.

Urwrong wrote:

„We all know this little coward would never have the balls to go through with his death threats, but here it is anyway. **

WW III Anagy wrote:

»I would love to put a bullet in your head so I can sleep better at night.« **

At Careleas (Carleas),

Are Death Threats acceptable on this forum? Or is it like 2021, and some people are above the law? I'm curious.“ **

I am joining the question, because I was and am dismayed by WW_III_Angry's (or WWW_II_Angry's) statement.

Is the Wild West in Chicago now? Is WW III Angry the Avenger of the Indians and Slaves who wants to Murder all Whites?

World Wide Web II - in short: WWW II - has begun. Here is someone who projects more and more of his problems onto others and becomes even angrier because of it. From WW III ANGRY to WWW II Angry (?).

See:

WW III Angry wrote:

»I would love to put a bullet in your head so I can sleep better at night.« **

What ist that? Kindergarten?

Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz invented and founded the differential and infinitesimal calculus (1665) seven years earlier than Newton (1672), which suggests that Newton stole from Leibniz. Leibniz invented a multiplying machine (1673), Newton the reflecting telescope (1669). Newton also founded the laws of gravitation (1666).

Leibniz' causal principle and final principle, his theorem of the reason and his differential and infinitesimal calculus led in the application to physical processes to the interpretation of the laws of nature as extreme principles (differential, integral or variational principles), the binary number system with the digits 0 and 1 (dual system) developed by him to the computer technology which he already initiated with his constructed calculating machine. Even more: Leibniz had an effect in all fields of knowledge and on all fields of science.

In the public it is always said: Leibniz invented and founded the differential and infinitesimal calculus 7 years earlier than Newton. Newton would have done it independently of Leibniz, but this is not true, because Newton stole from Leibniz.

Invention/foundation of the differential and infinitesimal calculus: 1665 (Leibniz) and 1672 (Newton). So Leibniz was the inventor/founder.

Publication of the differential and infinitesimal calculus: 1684 (Leibniz) and 1687 (Newton). So Leibniz was also the first publisher.

Obsrvr wrote:

„Great Again wrote:

»So, it is useless to philosophize about any other reason for that equation.« ** **

I am not so sure about that. You let them start lying and before you know it .... They are impeaching former Presidents.“ **

That's right. But the „equation“ works mathematically, so mathematically said it is an equation (without quotation marks); but the „equation“ does not work philosophically, so philosophically said it is either no equation or an "equation" (with quotation marks). Thus the problem is a philosophical one but not a mathematical one. And that means that it is discussable as a philosophical but not as a mathematical phenomenon. It works mathematically. It works!

Leibniz can still be felt everywhere today. In mathematics, in physics, in technology in general, in science in general, and not least in philosophy.

Actually, I didn't want to address this rather general topic at all, but only address the topic of this thread („Is 1 = 0.999... ?“) and just say that Leibniz, to solve a problem, used a trick, which was ingenious. This has had effects until today and will have effects also in the future, unless we will forget all science.

Mathematics is a subset of logic.

That (**) is silly.

It is NOT „for some reason“ but only for one specific reason why „people use the concept of INFINITY to claim that 0.999... equals 1“ (**). And this one specific reason is a mathematical one (a mathematical-technical one), which is based on experience with the environment and one's own thinking.

And certainly the whole thing has no resemblance to the wave/particle duality.

1 is bigger than 0.999... . But this equation can be used mathematically in order to solve a lot of problems, if not of most problems of all problems.

The number 0.999... can never reach 1 or will reach 1, when it is too late. If it could reach 1, then the equation would be redundant. 0.999... makes only sense, if it is different from 1. But mathematically, i.e. from the mathematic task and the result, it makes sense, because it solves a problem with the help of a trick. So one pretends that „1 = 0.999...“ in order to solve something important - a problem. And it works. That's the important thing about it all. In the non-mathematical realm, this equation is wrong. But that means it must be wrong in the mathematical realm as well. Right? That is absurd. Isn't it? But if we think of the trick, which is mathematically allowed, if a problem can be solved with it, then at least it is sensible, sensibly correct. Right?

So again: It is useless to think about this equation or non-equation in the mathematical sense, because there is a trick which mathematics itself can't solve, apparently not even logic, its superset. It can be solved only linguistically.

Obsrvr wrote:

„Great Again wrote:

»Mathematics is a subset of logic.

« ** **

That is what I meant.

So the issue here is about sticking to the logic when forming maths theorems.

And on a related note - do you understand the relation between Logic and God?“ **

Do you mean „The Real God“?

James S. Saint wrote:

„The Real God = The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = »The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is«.“ **

For me, this means that actually nothing endures, because everything passes, cannot remain what it is.

I have noticed that you are impressed by James S. Saint, but I do not know now whether this also applies to James S. Saint's concept of „The Real God“.

Obsrvr wrote:

„There is a logic.“ **

Nobody of us is saying there is no logic. There is logic in linguistics as well, although linguistics is more than logic. Logic is a subset of linguistics. (One can tell nonsense too).

We need to find the right wording. We have to get our wording right.

The logical imperative (cf. Kant's categorical imperative, which is meant rather ethically) could be: „Get your wording right!“

Obsrvr wrote:

„I see the difference between Logic and God as the same as the difference between Truth and Reality - you can hide from one but never escape the other.

But eventually God will lead Logic (Reality will lead Truth) to find you.

In this thread the idea of infinity allows people using Wtf's theory (as he said - not actually his) to hide the evidence (to allow committing the fraud). But »seek and ye shall find«.“ **

Yes, „seek“ is the most right word in that wording.

Obsrvr wrote:

„Otto wrote:

»If it is a done deal and Biden is soon to be replaced because of his senility, then he may not even know he is president and that makes him even more dangerous.« ** **

After signing one of his Anti-American EO's, he did mutter - »Pass this to the President« - and he wasn't talking about Harris.“ **

Obsrvr wrote:

„I watched a video of the signing - had to turn up the volume to full. I think it was about the 2nd or 3rd one, They were not saying what each one was. He even said that he didn't know what he was signing.“ **

A tough guy!

You would be better off having a bonobo for president.

They feel strong because they get protection from two sides: from the globalists, the real rulers on this globe, and the majority produced by the globalists, which can change again. And when it will change again, they will look for protection again and find it again among the rulers and the majority.

This is ridiculous, but the truth. Nothing new under the sun.

Capitalism is far less dangerous than communism. We know the examples from history. Communism has killed 500 million humans so far. And if WW II Angry will kill Joker, the number will be 500 million and one. Maybe capitalism caused communism, then it would be the culprit, but that would be an exaggeration. Yet when capitalism and communism come together, as it happened in China, then it is especially dangerous.

And the bioweapon called „Covid-19“ also came from China.

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Obsrvr wrote:

„Otto wrote:

»They feel strong because they get protection from two sides: from the globalists, the real rulers on this globe, and the majority produced by the globalists, which can change again. And when it will change again, they will look for protection again and find it again among the rulers and the majority.

This is ridiculous, but the truth. Nothing new under the sun.« ** **

That seems to be the only recognizable truth remaining.“ **

I could have said they were just cowards, but the fact that I just felt sorry for them has not allowed it until now. But indeed they are cowards in the sense of spoiled children. They are so weak and so spoiled that they are not able to be responsible for themselves, to think for themselves, to know what they are talking about, to fight, to live without computer games, cellphone and so on.

They are already living in another world that gives the impression of being virtual, although the „matrix“ is yet to come.

In this way, each generation is easier to influence than any generation before it.

I forgive you and therefore vondemn you to only 4 years of music, because music is the best in this case. ** **

But more tot the concrete point: Can religion overcome the replacement of people by machines? And if so, how?

Great Again wrote:

„You could mean this:

Is that what you meant?“ ** **

Yes, for instance. History repeats somehow. Doesn't it?

Beautiful (**).

Mags, why are you no longer a moderator? For me you were the best moderator - next to Only Humean, Uccisore, Dan~.

That's why I can't understand why you are not a moderator anymore.

Thank you.

Obsrvr wrote:

„Read edit.

I know the logic (the wording). I am merely seeing if wtf (and Certainly real) is willing to be earnest and interested.“ **

I guess you mean this edit:

Obsrvr wrote:

„I think he should have said - »earnestly seek and ye shall find«. Disingenuously evade the evidence and you merely lose sight of the Truth - but still have to face Reality.“ **

Is this the edit you meant?

I can agree with it, although there is a a little problem with finding.

Finding is similar to the epistemological subjevtivity/objectivity problem, a duality. But nevertheless I agree to the said sentence „earnestly seek and ye shall find“ and the followig sentence.

What you said about truth and reality - „you can hide from one but never escape the other“ (**) is even more agreeable, regardless whether I would use the word „facts“ instead of the word „reality“ as well. Both refer to what we perceive, namely what has become, that is, what is completed through history. So, I would use the word „facts“ as well as the word „reality“.

It is right waht you said about truth and reality: „you can hide from one but never escape the other“ (**). If you try to escape from truth, you have to face the reality (facts); if you try to escape from reality (facts), you have to face the truth. You are not as fast as the both are. Lies have short legs; unreality is like a dream in which movement is impossible.

I wouldn't say that ILP moderation was always „great“ (**), but you (**) were almost always present, and that's half the battle of being a good moderator. You also got along well with most ILP members and took an active part in posting on ILP.

Thank you.

You had some good points in another thread. I don't remember exactly, but I think it was a thread with the topic „5G and AI“ (**).

Topic: Post a Number of Yourself.

Let's start with my number.

My number is 0. It is a part of a larger number, which is my phone number. It is also my house number. My 0 is always at the beginning of my phone number. Never anywhere else. And if I want, I can use it in my name too: 0TT0. It is just great. Do you think so too?

Now it's your turn. Please post your number. You can also post multi-digit numbers, for instance 136475982, a very trendy number these days.

But don't forget to give raesons for your arguments.

See you(r number).

Here is a picture of my namesake.

He said: „That's a very old picture“.

Here is his „Ottifant“:

Topic: How H. G. Wells, A. Huxley, G. Orwell Saw the Social Future.

How H. G. Wells, A. Huxley, G. Orwell saw the social future. A comparison.

Concerning the future of the western, indeed of the whole society, of mankind, the descriptions of the future of these three writers could be of importance.

Don't you think so too?
How would you assess these three authors and their different descriptions of the future?
Are there any similarities?
Where are the differences?

Obsrvr wrote:

„Great Again wrote:

»Obsrvr wrote:

›I think he should have said - »earnestly seek and ye shall find«. Disingenuously evade the evidence and you merely lose sight of the Truth - but still have to face Reality.‹ **

Is this the edit you meant?« ** **

Yes.

Great Again wrote:

»I can agree with it, although there is a a little problem with finding.

Finding is similar to the epistemological subjectivity/objectivity problem, a duality. But nevertheless I agree to the said sentence "earnestly seek and ye shall find" and the following sentence.

What you said about truth and reality - ›you can hide from one but never escape the other‹ (**) is even more agreeable, regardless whether I would use the word ›facts‹ instead of the word ›reality‹ as well. Both refer to what we perceive, namely what has become, that is, what is completed through history. So, I would use the word ›facts‹ as well as the word ›reality‹.

It is right what you said about truth and reality: ›you can hide from one but never escape the other‹ (**). If you try to escape from truth, you have to face the reality (facts); if you try to escape from reality (facts), you have to face the truth. You are not as fast as the both are. Lies have short legs; unreality is like a dream in which movement is impossible.« ** **

Actually I meant the reality of the future consequences due to the reality of the past events. If I say, »facts«, I just throw in more opportunity of get into the semantics of »who's facts«.

And even though the following seems off topic here, it is actually related (to why bother pursuing these words and what they mean).

When a society tries to govern by establishing an artificial truth narrative (such as real world Communism and those trying to govern the US right now), they create an artificially induced public bubble of belief and force the issue of having to stop all thinking. Reasoning tends to unveil the reality that it is all artificial - creating doubt in the veracity of the narrative.

I think establishing an artificial reality narrative for a population can be good or bad but is most certainly a very, very dangerous thing (as has been proven over thousands of years of attempts). It stems from the lust to advance by trying to be God - in place of God (in place of Reality). And they actually know that it is extremely dangerous - to everyone else. They fully know that they are going to murder billions of people - they simply don't care. To them being a god over all life is just too blindingly important. And they know that you can't catch them. So they proceed.

Those kind of people seem to think that they actually have no choice. They think that the only way to advance is through the means they currently see - their »path to godhood«. And the reason they think that is because of what we are discussing on this very thread -

Getting the real story straight before making presumptions about what is necessarily true - look CLOSER at the details of your own thoughts and language (which largely affects your thoughts). Seek out, not merely A path to victory, but the BEST path at all possible (assuming you are not in a rush).

The problem is that it is an ethical issue. And when people, high or low, simply don't care - they don't bother (relating to James' PHT). I think that on high they are very willing to murder billions of people because they haven't bothered to seek out a more ethical solution to advancing humanity toward a more harmonious existence on Earth (another seriously big issue with James - »Saint«).

I can see where he is coming from. I started by merely being curious - then impressed - then amazed - then awestruck - then just speechless (as you said - »impressed with him« was only in the beginning). I have been closely examining his proposals and what I call his »final solution« (his SAM Co-op) for the possibility of any tiny little misguiding hidden devil. I haven't concluded that his final solution is pure and more importantly that it is the BEST solution to human harmony. I think that I have just recently realized who he was talking to all that time (a serious question I have held) - and it was not anything I was guessing. His solution seems to be a calculated far off destiny - and AFTER billions of people have been murdered - exterminated by what he referred to as the source of all of the trouble - the blind lust of the »Godwannabes«.

I have nothing better to do besides my wife, work, and wealth pursuits than to see if his unfortunately distant solution, possibly after the death of literally all human life, is really the BEST possible. And that requires a degree of examination for that elusive devil in the details that a »normal« person () would never bother to find.

In short - details matter in thinking and trying to solve real world problems involving humanity - not merely maths or scientific war weaponry - »Get the words straight«.“ **

Well said.

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