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Magnus Anderson wrote:
»I am not sure Sculptor is a troll. He seems to be merely unpleasant (not that such should be tolerated.) Lev Muishkin was worse, I think.« **
But then you couldn't have petitioned either, because there are no rules in this webforum about who is a troll and who is a stalker, although you can find out pretty easily by going through post by post, thread by thread. You can figure it out! Funny that »Facebook« as the largest web forum in the world has fact checkers as censors and the small web forum »ILovePhilosophy« doesn't even have a moderation.
I have given many more references than you have and, unlike you, have also spoken of stalking. Have you ever had to endure stalking? I have looked at the relevant posts again.
And as for the communists, well, it's clear anyway that they tend to cover for a communist. There would have to be a neutral moderation. But there is not. We should renew the moderation in a neutral direction. See Great Again's thread »Renewing the Moderation« (**|**). But will such a renewed moderation work?
What else remains as a poster is the ignore list. ** **
@ Kathrina.
I quite liked Lev, but trolling others around aint a great thing to be doing. People get off on doing it, I guess. **
You want a good example of a stalker. Try the one that rides my ass. **
Lev Muishkin. He follows most of my posts with ad homs. **
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Kathrina wrote:
»IS HUMANITY THE BEST OR DANGEROUS?
Is humanity the best or dangerous?
»Humanity« is one of the most misused and subsequently misunderstood words.
As its main goal, humanity should have the harmonious education of the valuable dispositions typical of human beings. But in practice, it has often been the other way around.
I would like to know your opinion about this.
Thank you.
Every day (!) about 10000 ABORTIONS in USA, Canada, EU. And the difference between RICH and POOR today is about as big as the difference between an elephant and a bacterium (!). Not to mention the wars!« ** **
Your questions are all over the place. **
Is humanity the best or dangerous? Why so dichotomous? Why not sometimes good, sometimes not so good? And dangerous to who? Other animals? The environment? To itself? **
In what way do you think the word »humanity« is misunderstood? Is it not as simple as the community of all human beings? If this is wrong, who are you to say you know the right meaning? **
And what is the »harmonious education of the predispositions typical of human beings«? And why should humanity have that as its goal? **
By the sounds of it, you think we're going in the opposite direction, and that's a bad thing. **
So have you made up your mind? Is humanity overall dangerous? **
Kathrina wrote:
»I would like to know your opinion about this.« ** **
About what? **
Narrow down your question. **
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Kathrina wrote:
»Humanity is one of the most misused and subsequently misunderstood words.« ** **
Yes, I agree. Together with »nature«. **
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Alf wrote:
»Is God there in any situation?
And to what extent is there a relationship between God and any situation at all?
Do you have any suggestions?« ** **
I accept the notion that God IS the situation itself. QED. **
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Kathrina wrote:
»I already said all that in a shorter form in my opening post, and the others got it right the first time, which is why I'm still wondering what you have your problems with, Gib.« ** **
Proly 'cause they went with the general gist of what you said, which I stated above that I got. But I like to get a bit more specific because otherwise I feel like it's guesswork and that I'm just expressing my own thoughts rather than addressing your question. That plus the question addresses topics that are too broad and complex to have a simple yes/no answer. **
Encode and I came up with this rendition of what the harmonious education of the predispositions typical of human beings means:
Gib wrote:
»I think Kathrina is trying to say that we can all have a common education that we all share (harmonious) about our differences (predispositions). <-- At this point, I think typical of human beings speaks for itself.« **
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But since you said the idea was originally Cicero's, I'll have to look it up.
You can have abstract and exotic definitions of humanity but I don't get what's so wrong with the community of human beings on the planet Earth. <-- I think that's the definition. Simple. Common sense. Creative and profound definitions like Kant's are fine .... **
... I wouldn't say that most people misunderstand what humanity really means just because there are these esoteric definitions out there. <-- Those are the fringe ones. **
Anyway, on the question of whether humanity is overall good or overall evil, I'm inclined to say evil--I don't have any facts to back that up, I'm just cynical--but I must also repeat this is a very heavy question with no clear yes/no answer. How does one even measure the overall good or evil that comes out of human beings? And shouldn't one have to define »good« and »evil« first? Get some consensus from a reasonable number of people? And should we be judging the overall good/evil of humanity as a whole, or would such a judgment be meaningless in light of the fact that individuals are good/evil? **
Questions, questions, questions. <-- You see
KathrineKathrina? That's where my mind goes with questions that are this broad and general... I try to give my answer but end up posing more questions.
^ But at least I got something started. **
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1) | How can we shape cultural decline (degeneration) so that we can reasonably endure it? |
2) | Will a new culture (according to Spengler, it would be the ninth) come? |
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Kathrina wrote:
»With humanity I meant both: humanity and human kindness. The English language, unfortunately, does not distinguish so much in this matter. And I intentionally avoided the word humanism.« ** **
You can call me Encode or Aaron.
It is important to begin thinking about this at a more basic level - the level of people or indeed the individual. I will give my thoughts starting with people and proceed from there. I think human kindness is important, even in this day and age. On the other hand, kindness that people take for granted is a bad thing. I can see how human kindness is for the best but also dangerous. I don't think we can make up our mind about this given that people, in general, are incongruous with respect to each other. Humanity, as it stands, is not harmonious(in both senses that google lists: forming a pleasing or consistent whole; free from disagreement or dissent). I do however have to mention that this could be argued from one side or the other. Is human kindness for the best or is it dangerous? This would make for an interesting debate. In recent times, however (as is evident even on this forum) it is apparent that a debate needs an audience with a healthy mind.
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Hey, youre (**) a Bidens biotch, report on Bidens triumphs with all those flattering NYT and Washington Post articles. Share why hes our savior. Explain why its great that Biden started a war in Syria. **
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Since technology and subsequently economy, media and politics have become frantic, it is hardly possible to keep track of exactly who changes what, when, where and why. Also, many word meanings change in the process. This can go so far that a neo-speak (Orwell said newspeak, which he referred however to the communism) results alone due to the technical development.
If one assumes in any case that humanity is rather dangerous than e.g. best, then one should (be allowed to) expect that the word for it will either be changed in such a way that people understand its meaning, how dangerous humanity is, or else the word meaning will remain the old one (e.g. in the sense of Kant or Humboldt), but then people will have to learn to turn this meaning of the word around, because if people will not do this, they will not notice how much they are lied to and deceived (we have enough examples of this from history, especially the communist examples since 1917).
Maybe the masses need a lie to believe in. ** **
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Obsvr wrote:
»Alf wrote:
Is God there in any situation?
And to what extent is there a relationship between God and any situation at all?
Do you have any suggestions? ** **
I accept the notion that God IS the situation itself. QED.« **
God is the situation itself? An interesting statement. But the situation is the present state in a room or space. So God is this present state in a room or space? Then he must be everything at this moment in this room or space - except me. Is that right?
QED. ** **
The Real God = The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = »The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is«. **
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Programming of children and naive university students - along with their overwhelming communistic ethics brainwashing. **
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Kultur wrote:
»My username, my indication of my location, my avatar and my signature are supposed to point out that there is something which is becoming rarer and rarer, because it has become civilization, i.e. degenerated culture, but that should be striven for all the more as a non-degenerate form, if that is at all possible and not simply a fateful development, something which is hardly becoming, but has almost only become.« ** **
It's an indication of the power of social engineering and propaganda, in the post-war era. The victors »write the history books« - official narrative - and then may criminalize all alternate narratives that challenge it.
Kultur wrote:
»Cultures exist almost only as a degenerated or fossilized, frozen, senile forms. The English language bears witness to this. In English, when culture is spoken of, the word civilization is usually used, thus admitted that culture has become a degenerated, fossilized, frozen, senile form.Yes, cultivating multiple interpretations and variants of it called civilizations.
Kultur wrote:
»The word Kultur is meant to indicate this, and that is why it is not written in English, because among all occidental languages, English is the most degenerated language - no wonder, it has become the world's lingua franca.« ** **
Agreed.
And it is rooted in a interpretation of Latin which also bastardized the Hellenic original. Much is lost in translation, just as genius does not birth geniuses.
Kultur wrote:
»Whether one tries to explain for cultural degeneration with fate or certain memes, it remains pretty much the same. What we should be thinking about, in my opinion, concerns two questions:
1) How can we shape the cultural decline (degeneration) in such a way that we can bear it to some extent?« ** **
Yes, and I've given my own opinion in the form of a pop-cultural allegory in Zombie Apocalypse. I've already described how and why zombification occurs and how it spreads and what it means, so the allegory is relevant.
How would you survive, dear friend, a zombie apocalypse, if it were real? In my contexts it is real, though it is not as it is artistically displayed in movies and television but it is displayed in everyday use of language, exposing a gradual dumbind-down and disconnection form empirical reality and the past. A linguistically transmittable dis-ease can only find a »vaccine« in linguistics. I've offered my opinion in this regard, as well, by indicating that the best medicine is not interventional but preventative, and that once disease has taken hold of an organism then time is of the essence.
The psychosomatic symptomology has been written years ago Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms along with the causes ... though some details have been revised. This is a falsifiable mental disorder, which is witnessed everyday in its extreme manifestations as gender dysphoria.
Kultur wrote:
»2) Will a new culture (according to Spengler, it would be the ninth) come?« ** **
Given what you've said thus far I cannot believe this would be in doubt.
Everything, including superorganism founded on memes - organism are founded on genes - go in cycles. Every variant is never absolutely the same as the previous - due to chaos, producing mutations/corruptions, and the determining effects of free-will. What is in doubt is if the Indo-Euroepan race will survive another near-extiction event, as it did at least twice before? - this is in question particularly for the European branch, and less so for the Indo branch, and the reasons is the effects of a parasitical meme that has infested European man. Does Europe still have the autoimmune virility to fight off this infestation and return to tis origins? This is in doubt. Here, the zombie narrative returns. What would people that have become immune to this parasitical disease that causes zombification do? How? I would think that the first thing a man finding himself in such a situation would think to do is find others who, like him, have evaded the disease that creates zombification. This forum is a - let's say - commune of the uninfected. **
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How would you define the terms?
Capture the Spenglerean essence of it. **
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Why should I not be able to hear (do you mean read?) what Meno has written? **
Where and why, is everyone coming back from? **
Its been a steady stream of past members returning for some months now. **
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